Nursery Pride face painting

[insomniaclife]

Went to pick up three year old from nursery.
Staff and all kids in her class had rainbows painted on their faces.
“nice rainbows” I said. Staff said “we’re celebrating Pride”.

Is this normal? The timing seems odd - it’s not Pride week is it?

It's not lobbying for BDSM., kink, sexual desire & fetish tho is it? The general concept of PRIDE is diverse sexualities - lesbian, gay, bi, trans. What do you think of when it comes to PRIDE? Probably not BDSM, kink, fetishes etc. I was just highlighting what is inclusive when it comes to the PRIDE movement. I suspect where schools are concerned the learning would be age appropriate, the basics - recognising it is ok to have same sex parents, be gay, lesbian.
I am not saying to learn about BDSM etc as that would be highly inappropriate.
I also said in your quoted post that I was referring to the movement in general, and wasn't focusing on a nursery environment, which I have put my hands up to.

Trans isn’t a sexuality - and while pride might have started out just as a celebration of lesbian, gay and bisexual sexualities, those days are long gone. You can’t pick and choose the bits of the rainbow.

Why teach three year olds about sexualities at all? But the point about pride being a movement and BDSM being part of that is if nursery are celebrating Pride, as they were, then you are introducing children specifically to the movement, BDSM and all. The BDSM is also introduced in books directed at young children like ‘Grandpas Pride’. The publisher defended the presence of a character dressed in fetish gear on the basis that that is what young children would see at pride. That is Queer theory in operation.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-humber-66607475

I am also a GC feminist and I agree with all of this

It you want to go down that route you should include criticism of feminism because people like de Beauvoir was one of the signatures on the letter calling for the removal of the age of consent in France and Greer wrote a whole book about her sexual attraction to pre pubescent boys trying to justify it through a lens of feminist discourse.

I think face painting should be about something the child can explain if asked. So 'oh you look like cat, do you like cats?' a small child can answer that.

Unfortunately things do become tainted symbols, the obvious one is the swastika. Yes it is symbol of positivity for Hindus, Buddhists, and Jains but, even though the Nazi one was inverted but I doubt you would get away with painting it on a child to show you know it is Diwali.

I agree with you about queer theory and it's insidious in LGBT literature and teaching. Lots of LGB people don't agree with this and are actively campaigning to remove it. You can't tar all LGBT people with promoting this.

They are not teaching the children about sexualities at this age are they? They won't be going into details but sharing that families can be 2 women, 2 men etc...many children will have same sex parents and family, they are showing tolerance so same sex attracted people are not othered.

I disagree, my lesbian friends are GC and they still celebrate pride and paint rainbows on their children. They don't want the pride symbol hijacked by extremists.

This nursery was not just teaching about different types of families. It was celebrating Pride and that means they were introducing children to a political movement that, as a PP has pointed out, includes BDSM, fetish, sexuality. It doesn’t matter whether they actually mentioned those things in the nursery, they were teaching ‘this political movement is to be celebrated and includes you’.

Which ones are you referring to? Christianity teaches universal love, for one.

'Normal apart from being gay' - I kind of see what you mean. But I think we need to draw a distinction between unusual but harmless things like being gay or gnc, and then things like trans, mental health problems which are (homophobically imo) being lumped in with being gay.

'Seeing normality' - presumably you mean this kind of weird Pride event rather than gay couples existing and coming into contact naturally with children (or having their own ofc). Or would you argue that would be 'seeing abnormality'? And that gay-identifying teens are 'abnormal'?

I agree that the queer promotion is v harmful but I don't think using 'abnormal' about lgb people is very helpful. I know you're probs using it in the statistical sense, but the connotations are still arguably negative

This thread seems to have been resurrected. Since it was previously live there has been a ruling between fair cop and the police that police must not take part in Pride because it is political and doing so means they are taking sides on a political matter. This also makes it clear that schools cannot take part in Pride as they too must not promote a political matter.

I terms of ‘normality’, I interpreted PP as meaning being gay is being normal but by specifically celebrating it you are telling children it isn’t.

That's a really good ruling.

If that's whash@MalagaNights meant, totally agree. 'Gay people are normal apart from being gay' made me doubtful, though.

Before pride and wider acceptance, being gay was illegal. feel free to support bigotry but a bit of face paint doesn't seem like a big deal in comparison.

You know Pride is now a homophobic organisation that denies same sex attraction right?

Quite. How many big, official Trans/ Queer exclusive events were on this Summer? It was somewhat telling.