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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Nursery Pride face painting

216 replies

insomniaclife · 26/04/2025 12:55

Went to pick up three year old from nursery.
Staff and all kids in her class had rainbows painted on their faces.
“nice rainbows” I said. Staff said “we’re celebrating Pride”.

Is this normal? The timing seems odd - it’s not Pride week is it?

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Grammarnut · 26/04/2025 23:42

afuckinggoat · 26/04/2025 14:34

This thread is wild!!
It comes across as really homophobic. It is totally right that children should be exposed to all different types of families from the start. Rainbow face paint is completely harmless.

Previous commenters sneeringly saying things like, "If there are gay parents, they wouldn't be parents without assistance" is actually harmful. Do you have the same distain for straight couples who have IVF?

I'm a gender critical feminist. As a group, we're facing harsh criticism on our beliefs more now than ever. Shit like this does not make us look good.

Go outside and have some fresh air.

I don't disdain IVF. And many gay parents adopt. I do object to surrogacy, however, whatever the sexual orientation of the prospective parents. It's exploitation of women as things, pure and simple.

KeyToTheCity · 27/04/2025 00:21

@Grammarnut That wasn't the point. The other poster claimed nobody said anything of the sort (even though what was said is still clearly there, and I provided them a timestamp as to when the post was made).

GeneralPeter · 27/04/2025 06:36

Tbrh · 26/04/2025 22:40

I agree. What a lot of fuss about nothing. Especially the comparison with white pride 😆😜

You think that if some of the parents are white that would make it acceptable to paint white pride flags?

No? Then you agree with the point being made, which was that the content matters.

(An earlier PP had said that it was fine because some of the parents will be gay. Is that your level of analysis too?)

MalagaNights · 27/04/2025 07:12

Would they have painted the pride symbol on the face of a Muslim child and told his parents they are celebrating Pride?

I hope not.

No one, especially young children should be required to celebrate other people's beliefs.
And yes the idea that homosexuality is good and therefore to be celebrated is a belief.
A belief not all families share.
As is their right.

Children are required to be taught about difference, and the requirement to be tolerant of difference, and not to discriminate and to treat all with respect. This is not the same as requiring them to celebrate and agree with the beliefs and life choices of others.

Young children should be made aware that some families are different to theirs and that's ok.

They should not be taught some families are great and extra special so we paint our faces and celebrate them.

Particularly when that belief (that gay parents are a good thing) may oppose their own families belief which also has to be tolerated, and not discriminated against.

This thread is a clear but depressing example of the misunderstanding occurring in education about what the promotion of British Values means.
Toleration and respect not celebrate and agree.

OutandAboutMum1821 · 27/04/2025 07:46

MalagaNights · 27/04/2025 07:12

Would they have painted the pride symbol on the face of a Muslim child and told his parents they are celebrating Pride?

I hope not.

No one, especially young children should be required to celebrate other people's beliefs.
And yes the idea that homosexuality is good and therefore to be celebrated is a belief.
A belief not all families share.
As is their right.

Children are required to be taught about difference, and the requirement to be tolerant of difference, and not to discriminate and to treat all with respect. This is not the same as requiring them to celebrate and agree with the beliefs and life choices of others.

Young children should be made aware that some families are different to theirs and that's ok.

They should not be taught some families are great and extra special so we paint our faces and celebrate them.

Particularly when that belief (that gay parents are a good thing) may oppose their own families belief which also has to be tolerated, and not discriminated against.

This thread is a clear but depressing example of the misunderstanding occurring in education about what the promotion of British Values means.
Toleration and respect not celebrate and agree.

This 100% 👏🏻

Tbrh · 27/04/2025 08:24

@MalagaNightsMuslims can be gay too?

Tbrh · 27/04/2025 08:26

GeneralPeter · 27/04/2025 06:36

You think that if some of the parents are white that would make it acceptable to paint white pride flags?

No? Then you agree with the point being made, which was that the content matters.

(An earlier PP had said that it was fine because some of the parents will be gay. Is that your level of analysis too?)

Omg no, that is a totally illogical argument. Making ludicrous comparisons is not a good way to make your point

MalagaNights · 27/04/2025 08:30

Tbrh · 27/04/2025 08:24

@MalagaNightsMuslims can be gay too?

And Muslims are free to believe homosexuality is a sin and not something they wish their child to celebrate.

As is their right.

MalagaNights · 27/04/2025 08:33

Tbrh · 27/04/2025 08:26

Omg no, that is a totally illogical argument. Making ludicrous comparisons is not a good way to make your point

A better comparison would be picking your child up from nursery and they have a big crucifix painted on their face.

WhenYouSayNothingAtAll · 27/04/2025 08:33

Tbrh · 27/04/2025 08:26

Omg no, that is a totally illogical argument. Making ludicrous comparisons is not a good way to make your point

Let’s try it another way.

Would it be no big deal of they painted a bindi on their forehead? Or henna on their hands? Or ash on their foreheads on Ash Wednesday? Or painted the Sufragettes flag on their face for International Women’s day?

In fact, why didn’t they do all these things?

Tbrh · 27/04/2025 08:33

I think true religious people know that Jesus, Allah, Budda, God etc loves everyone. That's the true meaning of God whatever the name, and a facepainted rainbow is really not the end of the world

MalagaNights · 27/04/2025 08:39

Tbrh · 27/04/2025 08:33

I think true religious people know that Jesus, Allah, Budda, God etc loves everyone. That's the true meaning of God whatever the name, and a facepainted rainbow is really not the end of the world

To you.

You do know that not everyone thinks or lives like you though don't you?

You seem to be requiring nursery level diversity training tbh.

Ill try to help, it's not: everyone has the same liberal values as me.

Tbrh · 27/04/2025 08:43

MalagaNights · 27/04/2025 08:39

To you.

You do know that not everyone thinks or lives like you though don't you?

You seem to be requiring nursery level diversity training tbh.

Ill try to help, it's not: everyone has the same liberal values as me.

Not to me at all, I'm not religious but I do know that God loves and doesn't hate. Also, I had no idea MN was so homophobic 😒 Best to look after your kids yourself then and not to send them to nursery, who know what they'll do next week.

MalagaNights · 27/04/2025 08:49

I hate to be the one who breaks this to you:

Not all religious groups think God loves gay people.

And they are free to believe that.

GeneralPeter · 27/04/2025 08:49

Tbrh · 27/04/2025 08:26

Omg no, that is a totally illogical argument. Making ludicrous comparisons is not a good way to make your point

You’ve misunderstood the point being made, which is why it looks ludicrous to you.

Longma · 27/04/2025 08:50

Arran2024 · 26/04/2025 13:41

The nursery will be expected to celebrate LGBT +, different cultures etc. It will be part of their Ofsted assessment. All nurseries will do this or a variation on it. My daughter works in a nursery and it is pushed hard, even though parents do complain.

I don’t know about nurseries, but schools do not need to do this.

We celebrate all types of families through PHSE and by having general books and texts in school and for story time that incorporate all different family make ups, but we certainly don’t have special pride celebration days,

RapidOnsetGenderCritic · 27/04/2025 08:56

KeyToTheCity · 27/04/2025 00:21

@Grammarnut That wasn't the point. The other poster claimed nobody said anything of the sort (even though what was said is still clearly there, and I provided them a timestamp as to when the post was made).

Edited

I misread it. It does appear to be a jibe.

CuriousGeorge80 · 27/04/2025 09:00

RapidOnsetGenderCritic · 26/04/2025 20:02

Still can't see it. Are you going to quote the post?

I always find it really odd when posters don’t bother to read threads properly and then post passive aggressive replies to people that just prove they haven’t bothered to read properly!

Sleepygrumpyandnothappy · 27/04/2025 09:00

MrsSkylerWhite · 26/04/2025 13:02

Some of the children will have gay parents.

This. Nurseries will try to celebrate everyone’s background. It was Lesbian Visibility this week.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 27/04/2025 09:02

I'd think it was odd because it's not even Pride month.

And I don't think it's right to involve preschool age children in politics.

But from the point of view of the children, it's just rainbow face paint and it's fun.

CuriousGeorge80 · 27/04/2025 09:03

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 26/04/2025 13:53

Not without assistance

@Allthegoodnamesarechosen you should have some guts and say what you actually want to say.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 27/04/2025 09:03

If it's for lesbian visibility and there are lesbian parents at the nursery then I can get behind that, it's a nice thing.

CleaningSilverCandlesticks · 27/04/2025 09:04

Rainbow face paint is completely harmless.

This is absolutely untrue. My DC reacted to face paints - it would cause days of nasty eczema. I would be absolutely furious if nursery caused harm to my child like that.

Pride is a political organisation and therefore has no place in nursery.

Micaela64 · 27/04/2025 09:05

afuckinggoat · 26/04/2025 14:34

This thread is wild!!
It comes across as really homophobic. It is totally right that children should be exposed to all different types of families from the start. Rainbow face paint is completely harmless.

Previous commenters sneeringly saying things like, "If there are gay parents, they wouldn't be parents without assistance" is actually harmful. Do you have the same distain for straight couples who have IVF?

I'm a gender critical feminist. As a group, we're facing harsh criticism on our beliefs more now than ever. Shit like this does not make us look good.

Go outside and have some fresh air.

Yeah, people in this forum always claim they're not right wing only bothered by trans people but it's clear from this and other threads that this place is massively bigoted and hateful towards the entire LGBTQ community. So many dinosaurs in here with a Trumpian view of the modern world.

People different to you exist and children are gonna learn about that. Get over it.

GeneralPeter · 27/04/2025 09:07

Micaela64 · 27/04/2025 09:05

Yeah, people in this forum always claim they're not right wing only bothered by trans people but it's clear from this and other threads that this place is massively bigoted and hateful towards the entire LGBTQ community. So many dinosaurs in here with a Trumpian view of the modern world.

People different to you exist and children are gonna learn about that. Get over it.

Edited

I fully support Ukraine. Would it be right for me to paint a class of nursery children in Ukraine colours?

If not, why not?