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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Nursery Pride face painting

216 replies

insomniaclife · 26/04/2025 12:55

Went to pick up three year old from nursery.
Staff and all kids in her class had rainbows painted on their faces.
“nice rainbows” I said. Staff said “we’re celebrating Pride”.

Is this normal? The timing seems odd - it’s not Pride week is it?

OP posts:
Peregrina · 26/04/2025 16:17

I had never heard of or seen the thin blue line flag. I see it was meant to commemorate fallen officers - a worthy enough aim, but once again, usurped by other groups for their own purposes.

GeneralPeter · 26/04/2025 16:35

afuckinggoat · 26/04/2025 16:12

You can get interrogate the theoretical implications of symbols if you like, but at face value, this is a nursery painting rainbows on the faces of children who presumably have face painting consent.

Taking it to this extreme makes us all look hysterical homophobes, and it not helpful to the cause fought for by the women on this forum.

Maybe. I think there would have been far less to fight in the first place had there not been a wholesale elision of anything rainbow with moral virtue. And, like with the mandatory poppy or institutionalised prayer, objecting to something on principle even when that’s an unpopular view can sometimes be the right thing. Deciding based on what’s a good look isn’t always best.

The thing I most dislike here is the pinning of political views on children (even views I support). The pride flag is actually one I like, as an adult, which already marks me out as a wrongthinker as it’s not the progress one.

Freysimo · 26/04/2025 17:57

Genuinely, why do we have Pride days/weekends etc? Being gay is mainstream now, why is it such a big deal?

Thisshirtisonfire · 26/04/2025 18:00

This thread is demented.
I cannot see the issue with this at all. Its like you actively want to find something to be outraged about

SirChenjins · 26/04/2025 18:08

It’s not demented to not want pre-schoolers to be painted with a symbol that has become synonymous with an ideology that has trashed women’s rights.

lnks · 26/04/2025 18:28

I have zero problem with my children learning about the LGB. I have a problem with the rainbow flag because it has constantly been waved in our faces by TRAs whilst they trample all over the rights of women and girls. I do not want my daughter to have anything to do with an ideology that would deny her basics rights and dignity.

Weightloss12 · 26/04/2025 18:32

I kind of see it as toddlers don’t need to understand sexuality, they’re toddlers, they will and they will get there, but 3 and 4 year olds? That said it wouldnt anger me and I would just say, oh okay and move on with my day.

NormasArse · 26/04/2025 18:39

readingmakesmehappy · 26/04/2025 13:51

I might point out that three of the world’s major religions regard rainbows as a symbol of God’s covenant with mankind after the Flood, and that as a Christian I hope that that story was told as well. Otherwise it is a sacred symbol being appropriated….

It’s caused by water droplets and sunlight. It’s a natural occurrence ‘appropriated’ by lots of different groups.

GeorgianaM · 26/04/2025 18:40

Myalternate · 26/04/2025 13:00

That would be the last time I’d have taken my children there.

The staff can celebrate their beliefs without involving children.

Agreed. No way would I have that agenda pushed on a child.

EweSurname · 26/04/2025 18:43

Weightloss12 · 26/04/2025 18:32

I kind of see it as toddlers don’t need to understand sexuality, they’re toddlers, they will and they will get there, but 3 and 4 year olds? That said it wouldnt anger me and I would just say, oh okay and move on with my day.

I think it’s more about teaching toddlers and preschoolers that families come in different shapes and ways, rather than sexuality.

WhenYouSayNothingAtAll · 26/04/2025 18:53

EweSurname · 26/04/2025 18:43

I think it’s more about teaching toddlers and preschoolers that families come in different shapes and ways, rather than sexuality.

Which can be and is done all across the country without “celebrating” Pride.

Arran2024 · 26/04/2025 18:58

Thing is, it's a logo to all intents and purposes. It's like brand recognition. I remember when people were concerned that more kids in America knew Ronald McDonald than Jesus's. Kids are being brought up to know the trans flag and associate it with fun, know that their care givers approve of it, without understanding what it means.

afuckinggoat · 26/04/2025 19:11

Freysimo · 26/04/2025 17:57

Genuinely, why do we have Pride days/weekends etc? Being gay is mainstream now, why is it such a big deal?

I used to think this. I don't know anyone who would think twice about someone being gay. It's a privileged situation to be in to be honest.

Homophobia is still around. In all of our living memories, gay people have fought and won rights that they should have had all along.

It's lucky for you that you are in a situation where you see homosexuality as mainstream, but that's certainly not the case everywhere.

Finding opportunities to show children from the start that being gay or having two mums or whatever is normal is really important.

Not long ago, when I was teaching, a little boy asked his Dad at the Christmas fair if he could have his nails painted at the Y6 stall. His Dad replied, "No you can't you little f*ggot."

I'll never forget it. Blistering homophobic cruelty.

So back to the rainbow face paint. I'll say it again. Take it at face value. The staff aren't teaching the children about scissoring. It'll be that face paint a nursery-accessible way of starting to introduce children to that people can love who they want.

You're the ones conflating being gay with the trans agenda.

The staff aren't making it political. You are.

RapidOnsetGenderCritic · 26/04/2025 20:02

KeyToTheCity · 26/04/2025 15:28

Posted at 13:53

Still can't see it. Are you going to quote the post?

mumuseli · 26/04/2025 20:16

Freysimo · 26/04/2025 17:57

Genuinely, why do we have Pride days/weekends etc? Being gay is mainstream now, why is it such a big deal?

I wish it was, but I don’t think we are there yet. And at the very least our society is still very heteronormative - people keep asking me if my DS ‘has a girlfriend yet’ …and on here there is always presumption when a woman posts about her DP here that her partner is a man. My gay friends say it’s quite exhausting feeling like they’re having to come out every time they meet a new person eg tradesperson at the house/ new hairdresser / new colleagues, as the default is people talking to you have a presumption that you’re straight.

afuckinggoat · 26/04/2025 20:17

@RapidOnsetGenderCritic

Can't quote it. Here's a screenshot.

Nursery Pride face painting
OutandAboutMum1821 · 26/04/2025 20:22

Nope, not acceptable. I’d be writing to complain to both the Head and Chair of Governors OP.

ClearHoldBuild · 26/04/2025 20:29

If my preschool child had a rainbow painted on their face I would take it as just that, a rainbow. I highly doubt that preschoolers were given a lecture on Pride and the LGBT community. And even if they were, at three years old I wouldn’t be bothered Most likely they just wanted to paint rainbows.

Joystir59 · 26/04/2025 20:35

TheCatsTongue · 26/04/2025 13:46

Remember the Pride rainbow has six colours, it is missing indigo found in traditionally seven coloured rainbows.

Do to the current backlash a lot of gay people don't associate with the rainbow, they're beyond it. Really it's just another over-commercialised symbol now.

I'm a lesbian and Pride has nothing to do with me.

ThDanielDay · 26/04/2025 21:56

readingmakesmehappy · 26/04/2025 13:51

I might point out that three of the world’s major religions regard rainbows as a symbol of God’s covenant with mankind after the Flood, and that as a Christian I hope that that story was told as well. Otherwise it is a sacred symbol being appropriated….

😂😂😂😂 the fucking oblivious hypocrisy of religious people will never not be funny

WaffleParty · 26/04/2025 22:02

God this thread is depressing.

SunnieShine · 26/04/2025 22:27

Joystir59 · 26/04/2025 20:35

I'm a lesbian and Pride has nothing to do with me.

Nor me.

Tbrh · 26/04/2025 22:40

afuckinggoat · 26/04/2025 14:34

This thread is wild!!
It comes across as really homophobic. It is totally right that children should be exposed to all different types of families from the start. Rainbow face paint is completely harmless.

Previous commenters sneeringly saying things like, "If there are gay parents, they wouldn't be parents without assistance" is actually harmful. Do you have the same distain for straight couples who have IVF?

I'm a gender critical feminist. As a group, we're facing harsh criticism on our beliefs more now than ever. Shit like this does not make us look good.

Go outside and have some fresh air.

I agree. What a lot of fuss about nothing. Especially the comparison with white pride 😆😜

Grammarnut · 26/04/2025 23:34

MrsSkylerWhite · 26/04/2025 13:02

Some of the children will have gay parents.

Who don't necessarily want their children's faces painted.

Grammarnut · 26/04/2025 23:38

afuckinggoat · 26/04/2025 20:17

@RapidOnsetGenderCritic

Can't quote it. Here's a screenshot.

Some gay parents will have adopted. Some women will have had IVF. Both these are fine. I restrict my ire on this one to men who used surrogates - indeed, anyone who uses surrogates, tbh, since this is exploitative particularly of poor women.