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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Ireland

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SuperSleepyBaby · 24/02/2025 01:11

Reading about the Sandi Peggy case and the various issues that have arisen in Scotland - the rape crisis centre, secret cameras in mixed sex toilets in schools, Isla Bryson, Katies Dolatowski etc - it makes me think, is there just as much issues in Ireland?

i know Barbie Kardashian, the male player on a women’s GAA team. Are there as many issues in Ireland as there is in Scotland, but not really reported on in Ireland?

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Abhannmor · 10/07/2025 10:46

anyzen · 10/07/2025 10:32

@Abhannmor Not cool will soon be cool I think. Wait and see. I agree about midland lakeland. Stunning, quiet, ordinary. Suits me to a T.

There were kids in cut off jeans floating on inner tubes. Took me back to my own childhood. Sigh.

TheKeatingFive · 10/07/2025 10:52

I feel like we're doing a job for Failte Ireland here 😂

ItsCoolForCats · 10/07/2025 11:02

Haha I'll look out for the vibe shift when I go to Clonakilty then 😄 And yes, looking forward to a stroll on Inchydoney Beach. And checking out the SuperValu 😄

UtopiaPlanitia · 10/07/2025 11:49

NoBinturongsHereMate · 09/07/2025 23:25

TBF, if you've spent all day hoiking pallets up one of those magnificent structures¹, you probably don't have a lot of energy left for brainwork.

¹ Viewed purely as feats of physical creation they are magnificent. Certainly when compared with my local one which is more 'flytipped heap' - at least half of which is either not flammable (glass, metal) or not flammable safely (paint tins, vinyl sofas, cordless vacuum cleaners).

Years ago, when I was stuck in traffic on the Donegall Rd, I used to watch youngs lads building the skinny but vertiginous boney beside the City Hospital. My heart would be in my mouth watching them clamber all over it 😳 I’m always amazed their parents aren’t worried about injuries or worse happening to them.

I seem to remember that bonfire collapsing one Eleventh and setting fire to houses nearby. Health & Safety wouldn’t be in it at all at all.

Abhannmor · 10/07/2025 12:22

TheKeatingFive · 10/07/2025 10:52

I feel like we're doing a job for Failte Ireland here 😂

No. I'm not doing any promos for them til they revert to Bord Fáilte / Irish Tourist Board. The other yoke is hard to say and doesn't mean anything.

NImumconfused · 10/07/2025 13:44

UtopiaPlanitia · 10/07/2025 11:49

Years ago, when I was stuck in traffic on the Donegall Rd, I used to watch youngs lads building the skinny but vertiginous boney beside the City Hospital. My heart would be in my mouth watching them clamber all over it 😳 I’m always amazed their parents aren’t worried about injuries or worse happening to them.

I seem to remember that bonfire collapsing one Eleventh and setting fire to houses nearby. Health & Safety wouldn’t be in it at all at all.

There are often cherry pickers used nowadays, but you still see them climbing on them like loons. Wasn't somebody killed falling off one last year or the year before? The one near us is enormous but at least it's in a relatively open space.

Cailleach1 · 10/07/2025 14:42

anyzen · 10/07/2025 09:31

Just to add, since I have nominated the "up yer arse" towns, that my NOT up it piece of heaven is in Co. Leitrim on the shores of Lough Allen. Few go there but enough to make it interesting. Oh and the surrounding areas are as beautiful as some of the places mentioned in West Cork/Kerry and elsewhere. Rare to find relatively unspoilt spots these days.

Didn’t ex Pres McAleese build a holiday home in Co. Roscommon near Lough Eidin? Belvedere House, near Mullingar, is near Lough Ennell. It is such a lovely place/park to visit with children. There is a huge amount of romance surrounding the midland lakes. Lough Derravaragh was one of the places where the children of Lir stayed when in swan form. Colin Stafford-Johnson did the most beautiful series about Irish wildlife. He said that the children of Lir fable may have come about as the only swans really on the lakes in Ireland in the winter are the Whooper swans who come from Iceland and overwinter in Ireland. They are part of our mythology.

anyzen · 10/07/2025 16:07

I was at Sandymount Strand earlier and the tide was in! The crowds hadn’t arrived yet either. I parked in the Strand car park and walked up through St John’s, Park Ave, Sydney Parade and out on to the walkway again. Some of those gaffs up there would make yer eyes water. Honest to God we have a great little country especially when the sun shines, and even Dublin can be Heaven.

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UtopiaPlanitia · 10/07/2025 19:21

NImumconfused · 10/07/2025 13:44

There are often cherry pickers used nowadays, but you still see them climbing on them like loons. Wasn't somebody killed falling off one last year or the year before? The one near us is enormous but at least it's in a relatively open space.

I’m afraid I don’t know but that’s a very sad thing to happen.

I’m always surprised that there isn’t more take up of the eco friendly bonfires. I would’ve thought younger people would be keen on those and they’d be easier for anyone living nearby who has health issues. The boneys with tyres on them are a menace for asthmatics etc.

LifeInAHamsterWheel · 11/07/2025 10:53

@anyzen that's reminded me of a time many years ago when my brother was only around 3 we drove past while the tide was in and he exlaimed "oh look, they've filled it up!" 😆

Abhannmor · 11/07/2025 14:04

Cailleach1 · 10/07/2025 14:42

Didn’t ex Pres McAleese build a holiday home in Co. Roscommon near Lough Eidin? Belvedere House, near Mullingar, is near Lough Ennell. It is such a lovely place/park to visit with children. There is a huge amount of romance surrounding the midland lakes. Lough Derravaragh was one of the places where the children of Lir stayed when in swan form. Colin Stafford-Johnson did the most beautiful series about Irish wildlife. He said that the children of Lir fable may have come about as the only swans really on the lakes in Ireland in the winter are the Whooper swans who come from Iceland and overwinter in Ireland. They are part of our mythology.

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I lived with my grandparents one year in Castlepollard. It has a lovely village green . Loch Derravarragh is a magical spot for sure. Be careful in any lake of course , you can suddenly plunge neck deep as the lake floor can be uneven or pot holed. I think Mary Macs family are from Roscommon originally? If like to add Lochs Sheelin and Gowna to the list of not up their own arse gems too!

LifeInAHamsterWheel · 18/07/2025 13:08

I have only followed this story on Twitter/X so apologies to anyone who doesn't like it but it's the only link I can provide. Anyway, am so disappointed to hear Mary Butler, Chief Whip and Minister responsible for mental health has made a speech in the Dáil about her committment to trans people and talks about the need to "expand capacity in gender services". She has a young daughter who has "transed" and she now refers to as her 'son'. She called for all "nasty opinions" about trans ideology to be rejected.

Surely to God this is a blatant conflict of interest?!

link here

https://x.com/brandubh4/status/1945902841656213573

AnSolas · 18/07/2025 15:10

My question would be would she be a supporter of her child goinh to the Joy on a GRC or expect her to do a term in Dóchas?

But TBF the Doctors involved in the adult service have whistleblown on how poor parts of the childerns service was (down to little or no proper medical history being kept) and the Irish youth service relied on TERF Islands Tavi.

And would you work in an area which has limited upward mobility and a high risk of being thrown under the bus by staff who "loose" meeting notes so there is no proof of what the whistleblowers discussed?

Abhannmor · 18/07/2025 19:41

Is that the ' minister of Education ' Foley sitting beside her? God help us.

Mary seems ... emotionally unstable. It is all very sad. But she is obviously not fit to hold such a responsible position.

Nebulousbiologist · 19/07/2025 18:07

IIRC, Mary,as Minister for Mental Health, recommended GenderGP as a replacement for Tavistock a couple of years ago.
This was later removed from the minutes of the meeting.
The reason for this deletion was never revealed, though one might reasonably assume it was to cover up her alarming lack of knowledge.

Somebody as emotionally involved as she is, which is obvious in her recent statement in the Dail, should be nowhere near any meeting deciding on the best healthcare pathways for gender confused children.

IMO there is a conflict of interest and it should be a requirement to step aside in any meeting on this.
I think the same should apply to any TD who is married to someone who is involved in a company that profits from the manufacturing of PBs.
It doesn't mean that they are not capable, but it just doesn't seem ethical.
The kid glove treatment Butler is given in the responses from other TDs,all eager to declare themselves allies, is also a sign of how we are where we are. Not one person in the Dail was going to raise anything contentious like the the only comprehensive review of trans healthcare, the Cass Report.
We are being led by a combination of activists and cowards.
We now have at least 2 TDs with trans children (FtM) and at least one with a trans sibling (MtF).
Having any of these people involved in policy making in trans healthcare would be similar to having Seery Kearney (who has a child via commercial surrogacy)involved in surrogacy legislation.
Forming policies based on a wishlist of activists is failing the children involved,imho.

UtopiaPlanitia · 19/07/2025 21:27

I saw this article retweeted a bit today and thought I’d post it here:

A GAA member writes: I am watching as the organisation is marched relentlessly, without the consent of the membership, into an extreme position on transgender issues in sport:
https://gript.ie/gaa-trans-activism/

I am watching the GAA surrender to Trans activism - Gript

A pervasive agenda, without the consent of the membership.

https://gript.ie/gaa-trans-activism/

UtopiaPlanitia · 20/07/2025 20:22

I missed this at the time but I thought it might be of interest to some here.

Article from late May discussing a trans rights protest in Belfast:

'Trans rights rally in Belfast? The placards told a different story: Palestine, climate, anti-capitalism, decolonise gender, and open contempt for women’s speech. Where does solidarity end and ideological conformity begin?'
https://genspect.org/any-old-cause-will-do/

Any Old Cause Will Do  — Genspect

Woke Soup for the Activist Soul Today I saw photos from a protest in Belfast that happened yesterday – ostensibly for trans rights. But the placards told a different story. There were Palestinian flags, climate banners, keffiyehs, anarchist symbols, an...

https://genspect.org/any-old-cause-will-do/

Genesis1v27 · 22/07/2025 08:11

Trans woman jailed for three years over sex attack on teen in Dublin laneway

This is the same man who previously escaped jail for pouring boiling water on a man's face in a casino, where he was reported as a woman in Irish media:

Transgender Indiv. Stalks, Pours Boiling Water on Casino Patron Who Spurned Sex Advances

LifeInAHamsterWheel · 22/07/2025 09:17

What a vile individual.
The court heard Otto is a male transitioning into a female. Judge Codd asked if the transition was complete. Gda O’Meara told the judge the transition was “not complete”.
What does that even mean? How can anyone 'completely' transition to the opposite sex?? And it's totally irrelevant given our self ID legislation anyway. Interesting that he doesn't have a GRC yet, given there's nothing he'd need to do only some admin.
I wonder where he will serve his sentence? It wasn't mentioned in the article.

AnSolas · 22/07/2025 09:37

The judge said that it created a difficulty in terms of sentencing as Otto has not yet received a gender recognition certificate.

Nope it is not a difficulty in terms of sentencing.

Have a GRC go to the prison per legal sex
Do not have a GRC go to the prison per legal sex.

Eg the male prostitute turned in by his client for trying to sell him child sex abuse images (had a boob job) and no GRC and went to prison. The mens one because that is the law.

And Irish Prisons are not allowed to torture inmates. Section 62 of the prison rules applies.

All prisioners were under C19 measures which is ignored when newspapers report on this issue.

The child rapist has 2 PO appointed as he was in "genpop".

Unless the Governor was failing to report (breaking the law?) so filing fraudulent documents he was not locked up under special measures.

And the reason for that is he and others have rights which are contained in one of the most detailed sections of the Consitution.

Note the Court even has to bail a detained person while they debate if a law is consitutional or not

FUNDAMENTAL RIGHTS

PERSONAL RIGHTS

ARTICLE 40
4 1° No citizen shall be deprived of his personal liberty save in accordance with law.

4 2° Upon complaint being made by or on behalf of any person to the High Court or any judge thereof alleging that such person is being unlawfully detained, the High Court and any and every judge thereof to whom such complaint is made shall forthwith enquire into the said complaint and may order the person in whose custody such person is detained to produce the body of such person before the High Court on a named day and to certify in writing the grounds of his detention, and the High Court shall, upon the body of such person being produced before that Court and after giving the person in whose custody he is detained an opportunity of justifying the detention, order the release of such person from such detention unless satisfied that he is being detained in accordance with the law.

4 3° Where the body of a person alleged to be unlawfully detained is produced before the High Court in pursuance of an order in that behalf made under this section and that Court is satisfied that such person is being detained in accordance with a law but that such law is invalid having regard to the provisions of this Constitution, the High Court shall refer the question of the validity of such law to the Court of Appeal by way of case stated and may, at the time of such reference or at any time thereafter, allow the said person to be at liberty on such bail and subject to such conditions as the High Court shall fix until the Court of Appeal has determined the question so referred to it.

4 4° The High Court before which the body of a person alleged to be unlawfully detained is to be produced in pursuance of an order in that behalf made under this section shall, if the President of the High Court or, if he is not available, the senior judge of that Court who is available so directs in respect of any particular case, consist of three judges and shall, in every other case, consist of one judge only.

4 5° Nothing in this section, however, shall be invoked to prohibit, control, or interfere with any act of the Defence Forces during the existence of a state of war or armed rebellion.

4 6° Provision may be made by law for the refusal of bail by a court to a person charged with a serious offence where it is reasonably considered necessary to prevent the commission of a serious offence by that person.

[(Edit to remove A40.1)
1 All citizens shall, as human persons, be held equal before the law.
This shall not be held to mean that the State shall not in its enactments have due regard to differences of capacity, physical and moral, and of social function.]

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