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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

NHS Fife tries to silence nurse - Sandie Peggie vs NHS Fife Health Board and Dr Beth Upton - thread #10

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nauticant · 10/02/2025 15:51

Sandie Peggie, a nurse at Victoria Hospital in Kirkcaldy (VH), has brought claims in the employment tribunal against her employer; Fife Health Board (the Board) and another employee, Dr B Upton. Ms Peggie’s claims are of sexual harassment, harassment related to a protected belief, indirect discrimination and victimisation. Dr Upton claims to be a transwoman, that is observed as male at birth but asserting a female gender identity.

The Employment Tribunal hearing started on Monday 3 February 2025 and is expected to continue for 2 weeks. The hearing commenced with Sandie Peggie giving evidence. Dr Beth Upton started giving evidence on Thursday 6 February.

Access to view the hearing remotely can be obtained by sending an email request to [email protected] headed Public Access Request (Peggie v Fife Health Board) 4104864/2024 and requesting access.

The hearing is being live tweeted by https://x.com/tribunaltweets and there's additional information here: https://tribunaltweets.substack.com/p/peggie-vs-fife-health-board-and-dr. This also has threadreaderapp archives of live-tweeting of the sessions of the hearing for those who can't follow on Twitter, for example: archive.is/xkSxy.

An alternative to Twitter is to use Nitter: https://nitter.poast.org/tribunaltweets

Thread 1: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5186317-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse
Thread 2: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5267591-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-thread-2
Thread 3: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5268347-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-thread-3
Thread 4: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5268942-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-thread-4
Thread 5: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5269149-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-thread-5
Thread 6: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5269635-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-thread-6
Thread 7: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5270365-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-thread-7
Thread 8: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5271511-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-thread-8
Thread 9: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5271596-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-thread-9

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AMillionMugsNoTeabags · 10/02/2025 16:00

‘Clarity’ doesn’t mean ‘mutual understanding’ to him, it means capitulation to his understanding/definitions.

myplace · 10/02/2025 16:01

Trauma informed means get your ass out of the ladies’!

BettyBooper · 10/02/2025 16:01

DU is gabbling now...

CheekySnake · 10/02/2025 16:01

This is gross. Women have to disclose a history of sexual trauma to earn their right to a space that Upton can't use.

Gallstoned · 10/02/2025 16:01

1 in 4 women are raped in their lifetime

kiterunning · 10/02/2025 16:01

Fucking amazing NC

Boiledbeetle · 10/02/2025 16:01

He's genuinely sad

Is he fuck!

Chrysanthemum5 · 10/02/2025 16:01

So in order to not have to undress in front of a man a woman has share her trauma.

He makes me so angry

ThatDaringMintCritic · 10/02/2025 16:01

Word of the day - disambiguated

eatfigs · 10/02/2025 16:01

"I am genuinely sad that that's happening."

No you're not, you don't give a shit.

GrumpyMenopausalWombWielder · 10/02/2025 16:01

myplace · 10/02/2025 16:00

I’m not a sweary fucker, but 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

Me too. My language isn't pretty listening to this.

myplace · 10/02/2025 16:01

Lord I hope Sandie is elsewhere with loud music and a large gin.

AMillionMugsNoTeabags · 10/02/2025 16:01

God. He’s actually getting excited about referring to Sandie here

ILikeDungs · 10/02/2025 16:01

I don't care you are sad BU stop going on just answer question and move on

bigboykitty · 10/02/2025 16:01

Um you DON'T need to tell them!

Chrysanthemum5 · 10/02/2025 16:01

You don't have to disclose you're trans it is obvious

CheekySnake · 10/02/2025 16:01

Back onto so risky to be a poor little 6ft transwoman.

chilling19 · 10/02/2025 16:02

I could not work with this man. Could not.

NoBinturongsHereMate · 10/02/2025 16:02

Very nice twofer from NC with the definition. Not only showed his obdurate insistence on 'winning', but also made him explicitly state there are differences between trans women and 'cis' women.

CriticalCondition · 10/02/2025 16:02

Was that surprised 'oh!' from JR genuine? When NC explained the person DU is currently trying to dominate currently is her.

EasternStandard · 10/02/2025 16:02

CheekySnake · 10/02/2025 16:01

This is gross. Women have to disclose a history of sexual trauma to earn their right to a space that Upton can't use.

Did he say he's not use it?

Or that they should go elsewhere

myplace · 10/02/2025 16:02

We’re gonna need thread 11 to make room for my swears.

Signalbox · 10/02/2025 16:02

The CR for literal women with sexual trauma is going to be very busy. BU will end up in a huge CR on his own with the broom cupboard being crammed with women.

Boiledbeetle · 10/02/2025 16:02

NC easy solution. No men in the women's EVER

murasaki · 10/02/2025 16:02

He really is a revolting man.

His parents must be so proud.

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