NHS Fife tries to silence nurse - Sandie Peggie vs NHS Fife Health Board and Dr Beth Upton - thread #3

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Sandie Peggie, a nurse at Victoria Hospital in Kirkcaldy (VH), has brought claims in the employment tribunal against her employer; Fife Health Board (the Board) and another employee, Dr B Upton. Ms Peggie’s claims are of sexual harassment, harassment related to a protected belief, indirect discrimination and victimisation. Dr Upton claims to be a transwoman, that is observed as male at birth but asserting a female gender identity.

The Employment Tribunal hearing started on Monday 3 January 2025 and is expected to continue for 2 weeks.

Access to view the hearing remotely can be obtained by sending an email request to [email protected] headed Public Access Request (Peggie v Fife Health Board) 4104864/2024 and requesting access.

Thread 1: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5186317-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse

Thread 2: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5267591-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-thread-2

The hearing is being live tweeted by https://x.com/tribunaltweets and there's additional information here: https://tribunaltweets.substack.com/p/peggie-vs-fife-health-board-and-dr. This also has threadreaderapp archives of live-tweeting of the sessions of the hearing for those who can't follow on Twitter, for example: archive.is/xkSxy.

And a dog….

Five additional chairs have been placed behind where the witness sits

In person observers, maybe? One is supposed to be able to observe in person but not clear from what we see where one would sit...

Hashtag Emotional Support Chairs

The other lads from the hockey team? Or maybe that is not the game we’re playing today.

Had to set up a new account but I've been posting on here all week. I just can't get past SP's mum having to come here and talk about how her daughter didn't want to discuss soiling her clothes with blood in front of her Dad, and her whole family at Christmas. I genuinely hope JR is ashamed

Do all those observers really want to be on the live feed? If they're just observers I'm not sure that's appropriate?

I'm lurking on this thread, largely because I don't feel I have anything useful to add apart from cheering on from the side lines but your post @CheekySnake really resonated with me. It is a really frightening idea that this could happen should the NHS win. I have 2 daughters and this is definitely NOT the world I want them growing up in.

Something is going on...

I am entirely unsurprised by this waste of court time.

Shirley Bassey theme tune playing....."the minute you walked in the joint"

It's really bad.

It just wouldn't fly where I work.

Are you assuming that the next witness is not ready to appear?

@JasmineAllen . I have nothing particularly useful to add either. Doesn’t stop me have my say.

@Shortshriftandlethal , wouldn’t even surprise me. Reality and expectations of other people gets suspended.

I see they removed the trip hazard completely. Was this not possible before?

I'm just puzzled by the extra chairs. 🤷🏻‍♀️

I wonder if him having to appear here and being stressed and scared, maybe embarrassed etc will twinge any feelings of empathy within him as to how the women feel every time they walk into a changing room not knowing if there will be a man in there or not!

Here's the continuation thread:

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5268942-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-thread-4?reply=141956937

Pity they can't fix the microphones too

I wonder why he sat on his emails to the BMA? Hopefully all will be revealed in the questioning. As should be the case for justice to be done.

Support team(?) have arrived

Without any success, I'm trying to read Naomi's lips.

There are a lot more people in the room now!

6 extra support people but only 5 chairs. No room for more

Surely they must just be observers, would the judge allow all those people as a support?