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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

NHS Fife tries to silence nurse - Sandie Peggie vs NHS Fife Health Board and Dr Beth Upton - thread #3

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nauticant · 05/02/2025 12:27

Sandie Peggie, a nurse at Victoria Hospital in Kirkcaldy (VH), has brought claims in the employment tribunal against her employer; Fife Health Board (the Board) and another employee, Dr B Upton. Ms Peggie’s claims are of sexual harassment, harassment related to a protected belief, indirect discrimination and victimisation. Dr Upton claims to be a transwoman, that is observed as male at birth but asserting a female gender identity.

The Employment Tribunal hearing started on Monday 3 January 2025 and is expected to continue for 2 weeks.

Access to view the hearing remotely can be obtained by sending an email request to [email protected] headed Public Access Request (Peggie v Fife Health Board) 4104864/2024 and requesting access.

Thread 1: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5186317-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse

Thread 2: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5267591-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-thread-2

The hearing is being live tweeted by https://x.com/tribunaltweets and there's additional information here: https://tribunaltweets.substack.com/p/peggie-vs-fife-health-board-and-dr. This also has threadreaderapp archives of live-tweeting of the sessions of the hearing for those who can't follow on Twitter, for example: archive.is/xkSxy.

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Jimmyneutronsforehead · 05/02/2025 12:28

Thank you for the new thread

Ereshkigalangcleg · 05/02/2025 12:28

Thank you!

WhoPutTheBomp · 05/02/2025 12:28

Thank you!

Rightsraptor · 05/02/2025 12:29

Yes, thanks.

I'm hearing Maya loud and clear - I think she's turning to the judge to answer, which is so much better.

What is JR playing at?

HarpyOfACertainAge · 05/02/2025 12:29

Thank you. Come on Maya 🙏🏻

Madcats · 05/02/2025 12:30

How does JR pronounce Maya: May-errr ?

Thank you for the new thread

Boiledbeetle · 05/02/2025 12:30

Thanks Naut.

JR she's not saying in this report the statistical ? of transwomen in criminal statistics

Maya what's she asking for is clear statistics based on sex.

BettyBooper · 05/02/2025 12:30

This can't be a good line of questioning surely??

Signalbox · 05/02/2025 12:30

This is where clear data is necessary. It benefits cases like this to leave TW out of crime data.

GCITC · 05/02/2025 12:30

You can tell Maya has been here before.

bumbledenbarsk · 05/02/2025 12:30

Rightsraptor · 05/02/2025 12:29

Yes, thanks.

I'm hearing Maya loud and clear - I think she's turning to the judge to answer, which is so much better.

What is JR playing at?

shooting herself in the foot, it would seem

Boiledbeetle · 05/02/2025 12:31

God the sound!!!

Boiledbeetle · 05/02/2025 12:31

JR is not helping her side here

chilling19 · 05/02/2025 12:32

God, this is painful

ILikeDungs · 05/02/2025 12:32

JR floundering a bit, caught out not having read the Jo P report properly?

ickky · 05/02/2025 12:32

I hope Maya mentions the percentage in prisons that are violent/sex offenders in the TW cohort.

Boiledbeetle · 05/02/2025 12:32

JR moving onto paragraph 34 the research 'the Swedish study'

HousesofHolbein · 05/02/2025 12:33

This is excruciating - more cringy and less rage inducing than yesterday at least

Boiledbeetle · 05/02/2025 12:33

JR 324 people in the study 1973 to 2003

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 05/02/2025 12:33

ILikeDungs · 05/02/2025 12:32

JR floundering a bit, caught out not having read the Jo P report properly?

I get the impression that she is deliberately cherry picking lines and trying to get the witness to agree to them. She's playing with words because she's got nothing else.

Boiledbeetle · 05/02/2025 12:34

JR high prevelence of offending for trans people

Maya no that's not correct

GCITC · 05/02/2025 12:34

JR certainly hasn't done her homework

BaronessEllarawrosaurus · 05/02/2025 12:34

Ok who peaked JR, there's no other excuse than trying to sabotage the case

HousesofHolbein · 05/02/2025 12:34

I love MF so much

GCITC · 05/02/2025 12:35

BaronessEllarawrosaurus · 05/02/2025 12:34

Ok who peaked JR, there's no other excuse than trying to sabotage the case

With her track record I have suggested she's a secret terf.

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