NHS Fife tries to silence nurse - Sandie Peggie vs NHS Fife Health Board and Dr Beth Upton - thread #3

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Sandie Peggie, a nurse at Victoria Hospital in Kirkcaldy (VH), has brought claims in the employment tribunal against her employer; Fife Health Board (the Board) and another employee, Dr B Upton. Ms Peggie’s claims are of sexual harassment, harassment related to a protected belief, indirect discrimination and victimisation. Dr Upton claims to be a transwoman, that is observed as male at birth but asserting a female gender identity.

The Employment Tribunal hearing started on Monday 3 January 2025 and is expected to continue for 2 weeks.

Access to view the hearing remotely can be obtained by sending an email request to [email protected] headed Public Access Request (Peggie v Fife Health Board) 4104864/2024 and requesting access.

Thread 1: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5186317-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse

Thread 2: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5267591-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-thread-2

The hearing is being live tweeted by https://x.com/tribunaltweets and there's additional information here: https://tribunaltweets.substack.com/p/peggie-vs-fife-health-board-and-dr. This also has threadreaderapp archives of live-tweeting of the sessions of the hearing for those who can't follow on Twitter, for example: archive.is/xkSxy.

Ms. Forshatter? Is that what JR said??

Why does she keep calling Maya "Ms Forshatter"?

You can't draw conclusions from data you didn't collect!

Patronising cow

JR talking. Really. Slowly to Maya like she's an idiot.

Maya responding like a normal human being.

Yes, given that she has cross examined her before you'd think she would know how to pronounce her name.

She doesn't understand it. It's excruciating.

Maya's former employers must be wishing they had just given her a contract all those years ago.

Instead they released her to number crunch full-time.

And no more lucrative contracts from the US government who want to cut aid and don't care about trans anymore.

At some point they will need to agree to disagree.

JR really does not understand how to read a scientific paper.

I'm not sure banging on about about proof that there is evidence of increased risk post srs is helping JR

JR and Maya have a fundamentally different understanding of the report. It doesn't matter how many times JR asks the bloody question Maya isn't going to answer any differently.

Ok, I'm now coming down on the side of JR actually is stupid. I'm cringeing myself inside out.

JR: "That's not what it says" over and over

Maya explains again and again

This is basic stuff. It's weird JR can't wrap her head around it.

I'm surprised the Judge hasn't moved JR on.

JR has always been mangling MF's name, as it she can't bring herself to say it.

MF carries on, explaining as to a small child. JR is coming over as a child banging her fists against a door.

JR is DETERMINED to win this point. Maya keeps batting her away. Now explaining to JR how words are used in a scientific study.

And bless MF for moving her mic each time so we can actually hear.

Meanwhile why is this of note? Is JR going to argue that Peggie is being unreasonable because she is assuming that the TW in the changing room is more likely to attack her... <losing the thread>

Jane Russell is now a KC. Jus' sayin'.

I think JR can't believe her smoking gun isn't actually a smoking gun and she's not prepared to move on.

Lol JR is making herself appear to be a bit dense at this point.

Oh give it up JR! Embarrassed for you

IT MEANS THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE NUMBERS no P value

I think JR can't believe her smoking gun isn't actually a smoking gun and she's not prepared to move on.

Agree Beetle.

JR pretending she has won the point