"President Trump’s Plan to Protect Children from Left-Wing Gender Insanity" How will this affect the UK do we think?

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https://www.donaldjtrump.com/agenda47/president-trumps-plan-to-protect-children-from-left-wing-gender-insanity

Whatever America does, we are soon to follow. So I'd say whatever Trump does, we are next.

Met loads. My city is full of them.

I know quite a few teens that are confused about their gender. I don’t have a problem with them, in fact I agree they need support.

What I don’t support, is the many middle age and older men who dress up as women at my place of work, and at night in my city centre walking around dressed like caricatures and using the venue toilets . I also don’t agree with the venue I go to which has “men” and “women and everyone else” on the doors.

I’d love the opportunity to vote for a party who would shut this bullshit down. I’m not afraid of them, I just don’t want to look up the short skirt of a beer bellied man in a blond wig as I climb the stairs to the car park and see his balls dangling down.

Bit of a partisan myth, that.
Obama did 15 less than G Dubya Bush

Anyone who has any doubt about the impact of men competing in women's sports should read this.
https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/259749/united-nations-human-rights-watchdog-speaks-out-against-men-competing-in-womens-sports

I've posted on another thread, but found this interesting

"Two House democrats have come forward & said they oppose men competing in women's sports.

Both voted in favor of legislation that requires it. One even cosponsored the legislation.

Expect a big shift from democrats of the gender ideology insanity."

https://x.com/rileygainess_/status/1854873412063133796?s=46&t=A2fpFNgDRyXF2d6ye97wEA

Biden was going to go a lot further using Title IX legislation which was originally brought in to protect women against discrimination in sport.

Are there trans men battling to get into male prisons? Does anyone know? As someone who worked in a male young offenders unit, I can tell you that a female prisoner in a male prison would be raped every day. But they're willingly putting males into female prisons.

Something that supporters of women, and of ending gender transition for children, have to be aware of now is lobbying from people like Brianna Wu and Caitlin Jenner to say they are reasonable rather than woke and so they have a stronger claim to be listened to.

A tweet discussing this by Róisín Michaux:
https://x.com/RoisinMichaux/status/1854825325546352831

'Beware the Reasonable Transsexual Brianna Wu*

I really hope listeners of
@TheFP don’t get taken in by Brianna Wu’s utterly inauthentic Reasonable Transsexual Pundit larp. He pretends to be outraged at the “green-haired” wokes (big fake laugh!) simply because he is trying desperately to carve out an exception for men like him that the normies will find palatable.

He’s shopping the concept of the “old school true transsexual” as if an autogynephile from the 70s and an autogynephile in 2024 are any different, or as if an autogynephile whose fetishistic fixation is on having a simulacrum of a vagina is any different from an autogynephile whose fetishistic fixation involves wearing satin g-strings and keeping his genitalia intact.

Wu wants to save his right to access women’s spaces (which never should have been allowed in the first place) and make people feel bad for using correct sex pronouns, even though using wrong pronouns for men, even the “nice” ones, has obvious downstream negative effects for everyone else.

He still wants kids to be transed via medicine and surgery; his only beef is that the screening for “true trans” is not up to scratch.

He is the archetype of the activist autogynephile: nerdy, high IQ, narcissist. He cares only for himself. Plenty of those dotted throughout the history of the AGP rights movement.

Sure. We’re all libertarians here and Wu can do what he wants with his body (and enjoy his paraphilia in the comfort of his home, which is full of toys for some reason) and his fellow panellists can use whatever grammar they like to refer to him (as can I) - but during his conversation with Bari Weiss in which he spoke of the threat to “trans women” like himself from the election of Donald Trump - he was talking about his right to larp as a woman and make actual women accept it - and worst of all, to wreck the bodies of young kids in service to his own need for validation.

Listen to the episode….[on Heterodorx podcast]…to understand what kind of man he really is.'

simply because he is trying desperately to carve out an exception for men like him that the normies will find palatable.

Like many others we could mention.

I would be very surprised if Elon was not heavily influenced by UK terfs

Even if he executes it by executive order the business model for trans surgery for minors will be unsustainable. If you are a surgeon basing your business model on giving under 16 year old girls double mastectomies or administering puberty blockers but you and your insurers know that if a Republican govenrnment is elected then you may be sued or have to shut up shop every 4 years then it becomes impossible to carry on.

Yawn. Yes, I've met transpeople. My son is one of them. I'm happy to listen to him, but he has been indoctrinated into believing I'm transphobic, so he won't talk to me. I have never told him he is wrong about gender matters, but he has picked up that we disagree with each other. Why is he afraid of my scepticism? He was always sceptical about ideologies himself in the past, but I'm not supposed to be sceptical about this particular one. I love him, and have told him that I will always love him, however he presents himself. Why is he "gender critical phobic" or whatever he sees me as?

Do you know whose voices are generally completely absent?

You've guessed it. Parents.

And Trump signed 220 executive orders.

I think this is going to take a turn, maybe quite soon. In fact, it may already have turned.

It's not opposition to gender ideology that is going to be tainted by association with the right.

Increasingly, I think the left is being tainted by association with being pro-gender ideology.

That is to say, more and more people are seeing gender ideology as a core belief of the left, and they are concluding that the left is batshit and immoral.

They are going to end up with a very tiny group of people who are convinced they have the moral high ground, like some weird minor religious sect.

What is sad, I think, is that it's almost impossible to imagine any senior left-of-centre politician in the UK say firmly and unequivocally that they'd actively seek to keep men out of women's sports. Even just that. Maybe I'm traducing someone I hadn't thought of, but Jeez, they are thin on the ground.

true, but think about this time last year? since then we have had the WPATH files, any number of ET going our way, added to the scandals of mermaids, Isla Bryson etc. I think a critical mass is approaching, if not already here, when the accusation of "transphobia" will become utterly spent.

I'd like to think so, but it seems that tipping point is always just around the corner.

I'm not so sure on that.

On climate change, the left has been a little mixed. They've overstated in some cases, and lost some credibility. But mainly they have tended to asct as though questioning proposed solutions is about not caring if everyone dies. If you question whether renewable can do what is claimed, or electric vehicles, or how the economic fallout of massive reduction of fossil fuels will work, for example. If you question things like carbon offsets, or point out the potential human losses of certain policies short term. And then - a lot of people felt that COVID exposed some of their rhetoric as disingenuous - reducing single use plastics went out the window totally, for example.

And COVID - that whole thing was an example of the left being shit about science and preferring ideology. The completely unsupported stuff about masking, social distancing, and even some of the claims about vaccination, weren't credible. And scientists and doctors who were less happy with the direction were not treated well - I personally knew people who were worried about things like cancer investigations and the eventual deaths from that, and were pushed out of leadership roles and blacklisted.

@izimbra
" All those hundreds of millions of women who've never actually encountered a transgender person in real life, let alone shared a female space with one, will be able to carry on not sharing a space with one! It'll be radically freeing"
Hang on. Just last month I was reading on here that trans women have frequented women's public amenities for decades, and anyone who believes she's never shared a public toilet or communal changing room with a passing trans woman is deluding herself?
Now you say that it's true, most women's amenities are in fact single sex spaces? And it would be a notable change for the presence of a trans woman to make such a space a mixed sex one?

The Humpty Dumpty world of trans logic and argument.

All fair comments