"President Trump’s Plan to Protect Children from Left-Wing Gender Insanity" How will this affect the UK do we think?

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https://www.donaldjtrump.com/agenda47/president-trumps-plan-to-protect-children-from-left-wing-gender-insanity

There are many schools, here and in the US, that have policies of socially transitioning children whilst keeping it secret from parents. Is that news to you?

It's just another, 'oh, it couldn't happen here', but it has.

I’m confident that he won’t. He has the Oval Office - the second term he wanted, so he doesn’t need to make promises any more, nor does he need rallies. He’ll simply do whatever he wants, and that means enrich himself and his family.

How about Posie Parker, then? She seems to have celebrated Trump’s win, even posting “American women and children win”. Today, she posted this ominous tweet from ‘Shadow of Ezra’, a far-right X account:

“Vladimir Putin declared the death of the New World Order just two days after the election results and a day after Elon Musk’s cryptic "Novus Ordo Seclorum" tweet.
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“Putin says the New World Order is a thing of the past, the “moment of truth” is approaching, and he backs Donald Trump’s foreign policy, emphasizing a stance that avoids the use of force.
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“The Global Order is dead.”

Posie Parker hasn't been a Mnetter since before Covid. She doesn't claim to be a feminist.

Yes, she has fangirls here, but many feminist mnetters do not agree with her on loads of stuff. Including her views on Trump.

Oh Posie Parker can support Trump. So can any one (though I may disagree). But it's much harder to argue that being GC comes from Trump when women across the political spectrum have been talking about it for years in the UK.

It isn’t about being a Mnetter. It’s about being GC in the UK. Her views do influence many GC (and feminist) women in the UK and abroad.

Jesus - the answer from the German government - women "in all their diversity" ie - men who identify as them, should be welcomed into all shelters and in fact, the shelters are delighted to open the doors to them???

Third paragraph. Really terrifying.

I agree.
I find Trump utterly horrifying, but welcome anything he/his administration does to reverse this madness. Unfortunately, in the eyes of many, to be “GC” will be tainted by association with Trump.
There is already a popular view out there that to be GC is to be right wing, fascist and “funded by the American far right”. Starmer is a TWAW believer. It will be an opportunity to push gender ideology even further with the justification that if the Trump administration is doing it, it must be cruel and wrong.

Different types of legislation require a two thirds majority in at least one of the houses in the U.S. federal system (can't remember which).

That's why Obama ended up doing all those executive orders: the Democrats felt they had the mandate because they'd won both houses and the popular vote, but they couldn't negotiate with enough Republicans to get two thirds majority for - whatever the legislation was. Probably election promises. Apologies for being fuzzy on the details.
Anyway, it set a terrible precident and has made the U.S. federal executive more monarchical.
But that's by the by, main point is having a majority in both houses doesn't mean what it would mean in a Westminster system. (Unless you actually had a two thirds majority, I guess, but I don't think any party has ever done that).

I would have believed this until the attempted assasinations.
When I saw that footage of him being clipped by some lunatic's bullet, I thought he'd walk away from the whole thing. Or maybe keep having rallies from an armoured vehicle or something, for a bit of a lark, but never put himself out there again.

I have to admit I don't understand him at all, what motivates him, what he believes in. It can't just be himself and his own advancement, not if he's willing to continue when he knows it might get him killed.
It's all watch and wait, I rekon. What will he actually follow through with? Who knows.

I feel like he's fuelled by his monstrous ego and narcissistic supply from people who seem to love him and hang on his every brainfarted 'what did he just say?' word.

On one hand, his businesses have gone bankrupt multiple times, stiffing all his creditors, many of which were just working joes needing paid. On the other hand he believes he is and is believed to be a genius businessman.

Nobody can say he's not succeeded as a politician. The POTUS is the big job in world politics and he's won it twice.

I'm kind of amazed really.

Very interesting discussion here on topic.

Thanks for this. Love Mr Menno.

Thanks for this, really informative discussion, especially about the legal aspects of making the sweeping policy changes Trump has promised.

For those sceptical that Trump/his supporters will follow through.

It isn't just Trump it is those around him, and the wider Republican/MAGA movement that includes a wide variety of people. They all want to take the gender industry down. That is why serious steps are going to happen.

Vance - he gets the size of the problem and he is committed. If Trump wants to play golf instead Vance is going to pursue this long term. He wants to do it and it serves his interests. Vance wants to be President if he can say I saved kids from gender experiments that looks great for him. Take a look at Vance talking about gender stuff on Joe Rogan starts at 21.30. He sees the religious elements etc.

R Senators/House members - their commitment varies, but this is a very easy target for them. They love setting up committees and looking for bad things libs have done. This is one instance where they actually are going to find awful things which they can then use to get re-elected. This is one of the biggest medical scandals of ALL TIME. Exposing it is going to make them look great.

Influential Right wing women - obviously this drives them wild.

Religious people - they took down abortion - gender stuff is the next thing. Unlike taking away abortion rights this stance is popular with most Americans.

Right wing/realist medical people - they know this is all lies and they just need support to tell the truth.

Right wing officials Trump appoints - they are going to get busy this is stuff they can target.

Elon Musk - this is personal for him. He has huge influence.

LGB right wingers - there are lots of them. If they destroy this stuff they have a chance of having normal lives. They have a lot riding on this and have to be at the front. If they fail then wider gay rights is under serious threat.

Lawyers who like making money - winning cases against the gender industry is going to be very easy once the first ones get wins. Because there is NO evidence.

Millions of ordinary people who can see the obvious.

Attacking this stuff is a no brainer. It is a an easy vote winner. Repubs are going to be able to say the Dems want to do weird experiments on your kid for decades. All they need to do is just look for all the lies and write them down and then talk about them.

As for the UK most of the ideas the genderists use come from the US. If this stuff breaks at the source it has a big impact here. However there are big differences because here it was left leaning WOMEN who pointed out this nonsense first. Yes the US right are not going to give them credit. However we can just use the stuff they find for our battles here.

By 2028 when we will be looking at the next elections in US and UK gender ideology is going to be very exposed - the fanatics will still back it, but it will be way weaker. At the end of the day it is very stupid. The problem is that its stupid lies are going to empower the right.

This is why everyone needs to up their game in the UK.

Vance - he gets the size of the problem and he is committed. If Trump wants to play golf instead Vance is going to pursue this long term. He wants to do it and it serves his interests. Vance wants to be President if he can say I saved kids from gender experiments that looks great for him. Take a look at Vance talking about gender stuff on Joe Rogan starts at 21.30. He sees the religious elements etc.

I agree, having also listened to his Joe Rogan interview. Vance has an excellent understanding of it all, FWIW.

Sorry meant to quote you @fromorbit

https://www.thefp.com/p/democrats-kamala-abortion-trans-trump

Republican strategists recognised that the repudiation of trans ideology was a vote winner for women. More so than abortion rights, given abortion access is State-based

Wow, I'd not seen it spelled out like that before. I thought it was important but I did think it was niche.

I'd be willing to bet there will be a bunch of democrats, pragmatists, who know their biology, who'll have won their seats this time. I suspect enough of them might see the writing on the wall and will vote for whatever the Republicans come up with to curb the gender madness.

Voting against men in women's sports, rapists locked up in female jails, body altering drugs, breast and genital surgery on children and young people!? Not a good look. When the skeletons come tumbling out of the closets? Really not a good look.

Watching that interview with Joe Rogan, it's incredible to see how far we've come. A few years ago it was #nodebate, and now the VICE PRESIDENT of America is talking about it! And yes, he does seem to really get it. Bit annoying though, when he says it's only Conservatives who are against it. Maybe he's never heard of Terf Island!

LGB right wingers - there are lots of them. If they destroy this stuff they have a chance of having normal lives. They have a lot riding on this and have to be at the front. If they fail then wider gay rights is under serious threat.

That's a very good point. There's a significant chunk of the US religious right who'd like to roll back equal marriage and other gay rights. Separation of the LGB from the TQ+ before the dam breaks is probably the best hope of avoiding that.

The thing that makes me go 'hmm' is that Trump and many of his circle are generally "we've heard plenty enough from so-called experts and their fancy book-learned words" when it comes to vaccines, climate science, anything more complicated than MERICA FUCK YEAH.

And you'd think the democrats were more leaning towards education, expertise, science and facts, generally.

But on the Genders, it's the opposite. Perhaps quite by accident, the Trumps are in line with the (tbf basic gradeschool) science of "there are two sexes and you can't change from one to the other".

Do you want to link where you read that - the full report, not just a social media post from some GC feed you follow on X.

Question for the transphobes here - have you ever spoken to a transgender adult who's glad they medically transitioned? Or even listened or read an account where they describe their experiences and their feelings?

Because those people have always existed.

What would be your response to them? To tell them that they're wrong? They would have been happier and better off if they hadn't transitioned?