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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

This is getting lonely

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Daffydaff · 04/08/2024 12:42

I posted ages ago about how I lost some friends to 'the other side', one of whom was like a brother to me but called me a transphobe because he's full on TWAW. We no longer speak. I also broached it with a few close female friends who don't agree with me, but although we remain friends I can't help feel a smidge of distance from them as a result.

This all burnt me, I can't lie. I kept my head down, I felt lonely, but this board has been a great resource and I follow some amazing women on X. I began to feel confident again in my beliefs, more eloquent, and thought about raising my head above the parapet.

Except... I just have. Over the boxing controversy. An old friend posted expressing faux confusion about the whole thing, saying the best woman won, the IOC wouldn't have allowed the fight to go ahead if it wasn't fair, it was very sneery and dismissive and put it into such black and white terms (bigots Vs kindness) that I wanted to speak up.

Too scared to comment directly on his post I sent a message, so apologetic in tone and with a hundred caveats, even saying (like a coward) 'I don't espouse the views in your post' but instead couched it in terms of 'the reporting was so hopeless that this is what I've found and it may help you' (he's a journalist by trade so I appealed to this aspect). I then simply said that there was some concern about male puberty / XY chromosome / DSD / unfair advantage / IOC are not some benevolent institution / equality at stake etc etc. I even said 'I may not be right' just to ram it home that I was objectively giving a differing perspective. Such mealy mouthed guff but I was nervous. Ugh.

He responded by saying 'yes the IOC is corrupt (errrr, not what he said in his post) but what proof did I have to claim the two boxers have DSD' He then blocked me a few minutes later.

Anyway. I'm beyond depressed by this. I just wanted another vent. Sorry if I'm taking up a post complaining again, but what does one do? I hate being silent. I feel like a weak feminist. I have visions of me speaking up and not caring who I lose and giving courage to any others out there who feel like me. But the reality is that I'm scared of losing all my friends! They've been family to me. I was part of a community of misfits, norm-defying and expressive and embracing all and sundry. And now I feel like the bad guy. And I've also recently moved to a new country and a very liberal city where I've already nodded along to people with opposing views to mine. It's bizarre. I'm so outspoken with everything else, happily respectful and courteous and able to present coherent opinions on politics and religion and gun control (I'm in a republican state!) but this feels like a cult.

Thanks for reading.

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Daffydaff · 07/08/2024 21:43

@LilyBartsHatShop

Yes to this x 100. I'm so sorry about your personal story, but it does make sense - what we go through at certain times of our life and how our minds become switched on to certain people / views etc as we try to process it... I can absolutely imagine one's defences being overwhelmed and then being susceptible to those with 'inclusivity' as a message. This is why I hate those people like Jeffrey Marsh.

I do try to factor in age and / or phases of life, and know that - as someone wisely said upthread - sowing the seeds now can lead to enlightenment later on. I've always ignored gender expectations when it came to personal style or sporting achievements and so on, but have been used a d treated badly by many men for my womanly attributes (errr, basically having a vagina), and I suspect I'd have made a statement rejecting my femininity as a way to gain back control? The only difference with my age now though is that I see that no amount of rejection would make a difference to the reality. But it does make me almost sympathise with why it has made such an impression on people of a certain age group (although those NBs over the age of 40 are just idiots 😆). Also, as I think has been discussed elsewhere on this board, being non binary is a hair breadth away from being gender critical, but not part of a special enough group!

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