KJK supports Trump

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After the Trump verdict today, KJK retweeted three supportive tweets to her timeline, including one from US ex-Fox host Megyn Kelly that says "Guilty on all counts. The country is disgraced. Alvin Bragg should be disbarred. They will rue the day they released this lawfare to corrupt a presidential election."

Another tweet makes fun of President Biden's stutter.

This is someone currently up for election herself. Given her recent remarks about barring rentals to all trans people, and the fact she has received funding from US conservative political groups, does this concern you?

The teacher is being abusive and the child has been abused if they have been led to believe they can change sex.

You don't believe that there is a God. You think that your lack of belief doesn't mean that people who believe in God are wrong. So people who believe in God could be right, and there may be a God.

You seem to be an agnostic rather than an atheist. An atheist would say there is no God and people who believe in God are wrong to believe that.

Are you also a gender agnostic? You don't believe that 'non binary' exists, but the people who believe that non-binary exists may not be wrong. By saying that they could be right means that you are open to the possibility of the existence of the condition of non-binary.

How can anyone who supports Trump claim to be pro-women? It's simply incompatible.

Transitioning children IS profound abuse.

Being an exasperated parent who’s child has got caught up in this nightmare is totally different AND many of these women have spoken at LWS events

When you hysterically take things out of context to try and prove a point it looks ridiculous.

Some of you just can’t stop pick pick picking at Kelly and it’s ridiculous. It’s bullying because some one else has different views than you. Fine, she doesn’t represent you but why the compelling and obsessive need to try and turn other people against her.

What about Julie Bindel taking the piss out of women that want to have children or pretending that that some trans woman are nice and valid?

Kelly takes a hard line - if it’s not your cup of tea - let it go.

How can anyone who supports Biden claim to be pro-women? It’s simply incompatible

the problem is they are in parties that have lots of other policies and caring about these (women's) issues comes a long way down the list.

Kelly has been accused of supporting Hitler before so I’ll wait to hear it come out of her own mouth about trump tbh.

But so what if she does agree on some of his stances - so do I on men in women’s sports!

I think this was the inference that was being hoped for - a false symmetry between crowds repeating a nonsense or provably untrue statement TWAW, for example, In order to programme themselves into unquestioning devout faith in it, and repeating a true phrase, which people have been widely prevented from saying in an era where freely speaking the truth is punished - it is actually an open act of freedom and defiance.

I don't really care much about what KJK says.

I don't think the Americans who have decided that the courts are the best way to oppose Trump are very wise. It will likely backfire on them in a huge way.

What they need to be doing is addressing why the Democrats are failing in the way they are, which is about the shit they push as policy, and the stupid shit they say.

Lots of people who voted, or plan to vote, for Trump, don't have much time for him personally. But people don't necessarily vote for a candidate because of that. They are voting for the kinds of policy direction they want to see.

And what they see, again and again, is the kind of discussion we saw the other day between Ted Cruz and that nutty judge. Or the speech Biden gave at the black college.

This idea that a lot of UK posters have that American conservatism is bad for women - people need to realize that about half of American women are conservative, they are voters, and they have political opinions, and they don't think their views are anti-woman, and certainly not as much as the Democrats are. It's kind of a trope of the left that this is an obvious, inarguable position, but it's not nearly so much as the people who would like to impose their own political views would think.

Though perhaps we should have taken the hint when the SNP were so keen on Trump and promoting him.

Even if KJK does support Trump (I doubt she does), this sort of othering of Trump supporters is what got the west into the mess it's in in the first place (see also Brexit and the red wall). Enough people supported Trump to get him elected as President. The left elites treating the white working class as some kind of lunatic fringe (see also Gordon Brown's "bigoted woman") just stokes the divide.

i think this is why your getting it twisted and so het up.

She doesn’t speak for you

She speaks for her self and people choose to listen to her.

She organises events and people turn up to speak.

Why do you think she represents you?

Transitioning children is abuse. I believe that transitioned children are victims -sometimes of parents sadly.

Of course they are! It is a huge safeguarding issue.

Yes I agree. If your actively involved with your child transitioning - your part of the problem and that needs speaking about more

I think saying "there is no such thing as non binary" is like saying "there is no such thing as God" and is a bit reductive.

I can't prove there's not a God. I can prove there's no such thing as changing sex, being neither sex or somewhere between the two.

Its not good to let potentially vulnerable children believe something about themselves that is impossible and expect others to go along with the lie.

Its elevating a teen trend into law, force teaming them with adult men who are using 'transition' for their own advantage and setting children up for the inevitable problems when faced with the truth.

One one hand, people are trying to pretend that this is just like being a goth or emo, while ignoring that there's medical pathways for the children and forcing society to humouring a lie because no one is willing to admit that vulnerable people can be safeguarding risks others.

We don’t need KJK to speak for us.
There are plenty of political candidates that support women’s rights to sex segregated spaces and services ...

Thats not good enough. The idea that we should be content with balacing the rights of women to have single sex spaces with the rights of others to hide or ignore their sex is ignoring half of the issue.

Children are growing up believing that sex can be changed, ignored or we simply cannot determine risk from a persons sex. Safeguarding isnt just for changing rooms and prison cells.

How many politicans are willing to discuss this? I wouldnt say plenty, there's certainly not enough.

Politicans dont want to talk about the ridiculous laws they have implemented and the safeguarding nightmares that have resulted. They are trying to force us to compromise on truth and childrens mental health for the promise of 'safe spaces' and the rights of adult men to role play women in public.

There are posts on various threads that pick apart loads of people standing for election, including speculating whether they have 'trans' children. KJK started a political party (albeit one with no apparent policies). She's standing for election. Talking about what she stands for isn't bullying.

No, of course a child doesn't have the mental maturity to 'transition'. That's the whole point.

So how can a child who doesn't have the mental maturity to transition have 'preferred pronouns'?

Yes, the teacher in this scenario is abusive. They have followed the wishes of a child who, as you have said, doesn't have the mental capacity to 'transition'. If the parents don't know this is even worse, because the teacher is going against safeguarding principles.

You don't seem to have thought this through.

I haven’t a clue. What does it matter what private thoughts people have anyway? Personally I am much less judgemental than your average Joe. If I see a parent struggling with a ‘badly behaved’ kid others tut at, I am more likely to presume there’s neurodiversity, or a stressful situation, or they aren’t well supported, etc. From what I’ve gathered (perhaps I have a warped view from posters on AIBU and Chat), the average Joe will judge you without compassion whatever you do, so I cannot speak for them.

@CassieMaddox

Do you think it is right to blanket label parents who have trans identified children "abusers"?

This is why I didn't answer the questions when posted. They're just to derail. I agree with you.

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What do you mean by 'transitioning' children? How do you determine whether a parent has transitioned their child or is merely attempting to maintain a relationship?

I agree with you. When I mentioned ‘transitioned themselves’ I meant teenage girls mainly who have watched too much TikTok, YouTube, fallen in with some crap at school, etc - and the poor parents struggle to avoid losing them completely.

Susie Green actively transitioned her son. Watch her TED talk and weep. If you cannot tell the difference between that and a parent struggling to have a relationship with their child due to the carnage that gender ideology has wrought upon the family then I cannot help you.

I’m not “het up”
I have expressed my opinion baldly and unemotionally.

She is saying she speaks for me/us by setting up a now approved political party, the Women’s Party and by putting forth political candidates to run for seats in elections:

On May 2nd elections there were five candidates from her party that got votes but did not win: Tara Hughes for Stockport’s Davenport and Cale Green ward, Sarah Freeman and Esther Knight for Lincoln’s Park and Minster wards, Charlotte Hawkins for Wolverhampton’s Fallings Park and Sally James for Ellesmere Port’s Wolverham ward.

Her political activism has moved on from organising events at speakers corners or in town centres.

Elected officials do speak for us (the constituents). She is no different from Farage and his Reform Party who says he speaks for the working class in saying she speaks for us, the women of Britain.