KJK supports Trump

[NefertitiV]

After the Trump verdict today, KJK retweeted three supportive tweets to her timeline, including one from US ex-Fox host Megyn Kelly that says "Guilty on all counts. The country is disgraced. Alvin Bragg should be disbarred. They will rue the day they released this lawfare to corrupt a presidential election."

Another tweet makes fun of President Biden's stutter.

This is someone currently up for election herself. Given her recent remarks about barring rentals to all trans people, and the fact she has received funding from US conservative political groups, does this concern you?

It's censorship of children's books in state schools.

You can give your kids whatever books you like at home.

Wanting any books in schools is a more dangerous and extreme position than agreement on age appropriate content in state schools.

You really are the extremist here.

I find the current left much more dangerous than the current right.
Both have potential to become extremist and history to prove it.
No one is the good side.

It's a thread about KJK.
There are plenty about WPUK and similar for people to post on if they want.

I’ll post where I want thanks

😂
Don't be ridiculous.
I am not in charge of schools; I trust teachers/trusts to choose the right age appropriate books for their libraries.

Banning books is extremist censorship beloved of the American Christian Right.

As for it being about KJK of course she’s the obsession of the day. These threads run over and over.

But don’t complain she’s growing an audience when you’re part of why. Build her success by all means but at least have a smidgeon of awareness

I'm not asking you not to, simply saying that I'm not going to answer your question and directing you to search terms that will find you the answers you keep demanding

I am also against censorship of books, apart from books that are pure hate speech designed to provoke racism and genocide- i.e. Mein Kampf.

You really are odd about this.

Yes teachers make decisions about censoring books.

Parents have a right to express views and campaign about what curriculum is decided upon.

You've now shifted to agreeing on censorship but disagreeing parents should have an influence.

You have now shifted to the argument of who decides about your child the government or parents.

That's another current left/ right debate.
Relevant to the trans kids as well.

Again I suspect I'd fall somewhere between you and MFL.

You really cannot see you are the extremist here

I don't mean this is an awful way, though it will sound like it - I think you may be suffering from Trump derangement syndrome. Which is not surprising given the way much of the media, especially the left media, covers him.

But you are speaking as if Trump is a far out political figure reviled by most, rather than a guy who has managed to get about half the country to vote for him, and who managed to beat Hilary Clinton in an election.

Now there are a lot of Americans who don't like him that much, but still voted for him, because they see him as more likely to deliver their political goals than the Democrats who they see as completely batshit. These are not far out, far right people, they are mainly centrist, many of them former Democrat voters, many Obama voters.

I'll give you two examples - one a friend of mine, big leftie when we were at university together in Canada, an activist, an environmentalist personally and professionally, an observant Jew, supporter of feminist causes (though, like many Americans, quite middle of the road on abortion.) She's lived for years now in the US, last time I saw her, during COVID, she told me she was now a registered Republican, there were just more and more things the Democrats were supporting that she didn't feel she was ok with.

Similarly, watched a video a few weeks ago about a young black guy in one of the big, northern cities, describe how he went from being a Democrat to a Republican. Challenged by a cab driver when he said Trump was a racist, was so mad when she said, find some racist things he's said that he started listening to his whole speeches, realized that what the media had presented was deliberately making them say something different, and that was the start of a major political change for him.

There is a whole huge sector of Americans who don't see Trump as any more deranged than the Democrats. Remember - Fox news is the most watched channel in the US, not just by Republicans, but also by registered Democrats. The kind of people who read the American Guardian are very much in a bubble, and are really a very small section of society.

Are you @NefertitiV ?

I asked the op

You are making a claim so it is up to you to provide the evidence.

Can you provide a link to the list of the books that the people you are talking about want banning, not a list that someone else says the people that you are talking about said they are wanting to ban.

Use actual primary sources.

Yes teachers make decisions about censoring books.

Do they? I though teachers would age restrict books, which is different from censorship or banning.

Wanting any books in schools is a more dangerous and extreme position than agreement on age appropriate content in state schools

I agree. We are prolific readers, hundreds of books at home. Some are on the banned list and I am fine with children reading them, I wouldn’t necessarily let my children’s friends take some of them home, though. I wouldn’t let my 12 year old read American Psycho, although I think we still have a copy of that.

I wouldn’t let any of them read a book promoting porn, butt plugs or anal play and I would complain if it was in the school library. It’s part of that whole “queering of childhood” bullshit and I think it’s a form of grooming.

Parents can and should politically influence the curriculum they want.
Teachers do not have free reign on the curriculum or materials. Nor should they.

That's what MFL are doing.

I honestly find your inability to see that there's a reasonable debate and your unbending belief you are right and good scary.

That is censorship.

Making decisions about what children have access to in school is what is being described as banning & censorship.

But yes in reality it's adults deciding what is appropriate developmentally & morally.
But people have different views on that.

I've seen many videos of parents and kids reading out excerpt from books in their school libraries, in school board meetings, that the school board don't want read out and videoed due to explicit content in those books.

So adults can't hear it but kids can read it? And lets not start on the drawings.

MFL are demanding certain books are banned from being taught in schools. Centrally banned, not just teachers choosing not to teach it. That is censorship.

Teachers selecting from an unreadable large choice of available books based on topic, age and what they want children to learn is them doing their job, not censorship.

Why are you making out censorship is fine?

If American leftwing purity people don’t like KJK, why don’t they just find themselves a naice, pure, lefty woman to speak out against male encroachment on female spaces in the US media?

Just find someone perfectly leftwing and more popular than KJK to do the job and there will be no vacancy for KJK to slip into.

Boggles the mind that in a country with how many million people they can’t find someone pure enough to fill the role!

Kara Dansky and Julia Beck are both excellent but not pure enough, apparently 🤷‍♀️

Stop moaning about KJK and start doing the job yourself, the moaning is tedious as fuck.

I thought censorship and banning was more centrally done by government agencies- local or country or nationwide. I suppose I view the decisions of one school to be more restricting books in the curriculum rather than censoring or banning.

And the left.

What about Rachel Rooney’s book “My Body is Me”. Lovely book aimed for primary aged children, promoting acceptance of them as themselves, as a contrast to the “born in the wrong body trope”.

Once word got out it was “transphobic” it was not able to be found in book shops and taken off Amazon and Bookseller lists, both in the UK and the US.

Yeh there must be someone

Of course there are books teachers cannot choose to use with children.

There are restrictions.
Rightly so.

Depends on how education is organised.

Some decisions are central some are local some individual to the school or teacher.

See the rhse debate in the UK for example of what level these decisions should be taken.

Nice reverse ferret!

Schools choosing age appropriate material on certain topics is entirely different to extremist groups demanding a ban on certain materials being taught.

I support the former, I oppose the latter.

Yes, I agree.