KJK supports Trump

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After the Trump verdict today, KJK retweeted three supportive tweets to her timeline, including one from US ex-Fox host Megyn Kelly that says "Guilty on all counts. The country is disgraced. Alvin Bragg should be disbarred. They will rue the day they released this lawfare to corrupt a presidential election."

Another tweet makes fun of President Biden's stutter.

This is someone currently up for election herself. Given her recent remarks about barring rentals to all trans people, and the fact she has received funding from US conservative political groups, does this concern you?

Nope.

I'm in the USA and very happy to see that Trump got what he deserved. I'm not happy about the misogyny of both Trump's (Republican) party and the Democratic Party, and I'm not happy about the misogyny of pretty much all of the mainstream parties on the UK in the run-up to the general election.

Do I single out Kellie-Jay Keene (who, as far as I know, identifies as a Labour supporter, and was a long-time UK Labour activist, disenfranchised as UK Labour like all of the other mainstream UK parties behaves in a misogynist manner and fails to uphold women's rights) as the target of my ire?

Fuck no. Why do you?

I don't believe she is a Labour supporter at all. As you say, she might have been in the past, but she certainly isn't now.

I'm more interested in the thoughts of those who donate to her, actively support her on here and also support the Party of Women. (And may actually vote for them.)

I single her out as she is popular on this board and she is now an electoral candidate. Scrutiny is fine.

Do conservative or populist-leaning women not suffer from sex-based discrimination, I wonder? Do they not deserve a voice in woman-centred activism?

She did what?

RETWEETS?

About something that is divisive and will probably kick the USA into meltdown during two huge wars across the globe and just before two massively important elections and she does RETWEETS?

I detest Trump and have done since the 80s, and completely believe he is 100% guilty of probably every accusation about him. But this is does seem a hugely political move to destabilise MAGA types and provoke riots.

It must be nice to just take everything at face value without thinking things through or at least asking questions. The fact that you trawl her twitter to document every tweet just to post another thread about her on here is so fucking pathetic.

@AlisonDonut

It must be nice to just take everything at face value without thinking things through or at least asking questions. The fact that you trawl her twitter to document every tweet just to post another thread about her on here is so fucking pathetic.

Not at all. I read a range of things, and I don't "document every tweet". The fact I posted this thread is asking questions, isn't it? Are you afraid of it? You always push back; I'd suggest it is you that doesn't think things through or ask questions.

I detest Trump and have done since the 80s, and completely believe he is 100% guilty of probably every accusation about him. But this is does seem a hugely political move to destabilise MAGA types and provoke riots.

This doesn't make sense. If he's 100% guilty, how is this then a political move to destabilise MAGA types and provoke riots? He's been proven guilty by a jury - not the judge, not the President. The MAGA types will have to cope with it.

Sure. But that's not quite the question I'm asking.

I disagree with her about Trump and agree with her about protecting women’s sex-based rights. I don’t have to agree with the former to support the latter and her position on the former doesn’t mean I can’t or shouldn’t support her on the latter. Equally, her position on the former doesn’t negate her position on the latter. “She supports Trump, ergo, believing men can’t be women must also be false” doesn’t work doesn’t it?

As the upcoming elections in many countries prove, there’s no one party, person or candidate who meets all of anyone’s personal criteria. People have different opinions on different things and shared opinions on different things. HTH.

She's supported Trump for a long time, this isn't anything new and I don't see a problem
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She literally has nothing to do with me and I don’t care. She happens to believe some things I believe. And other things I dont. The world works like that.

And what I don’t like is people busy trying to disrupt an important movement because some adjacent people think things they don’t like.

These purity examinations are tedious. I don't agree with all of KJKs political views; I do appreciate her pro-women and pro-free-speech activism. It's not as though she's about to become PM, or even has the slightest chance of being elected as an MP.

The fact I posted this thread is asking questions, isn't it? Are you afraid of it? You always push back; I'd suggest it is you that doesn't think things through or ask questions.

You can't even work out that this isn't about Trump but about the democratic process.

The whole system is broken but sure, lets leap into action to start another tedious thread about a women whose had so many threads on here demonsing everything she said and everything she did to the extent that if there isn't one running demonising her then Mumsnet is probably down.

You love her milkshake and can't get enough. I'm more worried about the whole of the fucking western civilisation crumbling before our eyes to be honest. Of course I'm afraid but it isn't of KJK.

I do worry about this. For political movements, figureheads matter, and KJK is a figurehead. She has done some great stuff in highlighting the issues (LOVED adult human female bill boards).

More recently some of her comments seem to be less about protecting the rights of women and children and more about punishing trans identified people. This is not rational or reasonable.

Displaying clear support for Trump, one of the most vile misogynists there is, both undermines her messages about the importance of safeguarding for women and children and gives fuel to the theory that the UK gender critical movement is fuelled by shadowy far right organisations. Like Glinner, she is in real danger of doing more harm than good, for herself and the movement as a whole.

It isn't just Trump she's on board with, though. It's the Conservative movement in the US, and that's not particularly favourable in their views regarding women.

Do you agree with her that men, no matter how they identify should not be allowed in women's prisons, refugees, showers,changing rooms, sports etc.?

Refuges not refugees, sorry.

@AlisonDonut

You can't even work out that this isn't about Trump but about the democratic process.
Isn't that what I just said? Trump was convicted by a jury. This isn't election interference.

The whole system is broken but sure, lets leap into action to start another tedious thread about a women whose had so many threads on here demonsing everything she said and everything she did to the extent that if there isn't one running demonising her then Mumsnet is probably down.
IDK - usually it's all tedious trans threads.

You love her milkshake and can't get enough. I'm more worried about the whole of the fucking western civilisation crumbling before our eyes to be honest. Of course I'm afraid but it isn't of KJK.
So sorry. If you don't like it, don't read it.

Here we go again.

That's not what the thread is about, but yes, I do agree with her.

No.

Men dressed in lingerie at work should be something that an employer can discriminate against.

Is her point.

And there isn't a movement. There is a load of people all lining up on the issue of not wanting kids sterilised and not wanting rapists in women's prisons. These people will come from far and wide. If you want a bubble with only pure people allowed in that meet your particular standard, then you are barking up the wrong tree.

If you don't like her twitter feed then maybe don't read that. You can even hide it, but then you wouldn't be able to stalk her right?

Thank you for starting the thread. I’m surprised and disappointed in the replies you’re getting to a polite and non-inflammatory post. I think it’s ok to scrutinise people you intend to vote for. That famous sunlight.

Men dressed in lingerie? I would hope my work would send home anyone who turns up dressed in nowt but lingerie.

If it is under appropriate clothing and not visible I don't give a shiny shit who is wearing what. Literally none of my business.

Not sure there is much rational debate to be had on this thread, so I will just leave it there.

There are plenty of right wing knobheads who I agree with about sex based rights but disagree with on just about everything else.

This

KJK is an articulate right winger

I prefer my GC heroes to be articulate left wingers.