KJK supports Trump

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After the Trump verdict today, KJK retweeted three supportive tweets to her timeline, including one from US ex-Fox host Megyn Kelly that says "Guilty on all counts. The country is disgraced. Alvin Bragg should be disbarred. They will rue the day they released this lawfare to corrupt a presidential election."

Another tweet makes fun of President Biden's stutter.

This is someone currently up for election herself. Given her recent remarks about barring rentals to all trans people, and the fact she has received funding from US conservative political groups, does this concern you?

Private sellers choosing not to stock a book is not the same as banning it.

I think that's ridiculous too, but its not censorship.

Yes & I'm sure any picture books condemning homosexual parents as immoral would be banned from infant classrooms.

Rightly so.

Or do you @CassieMaddox think a religious teacher could decide to introduce this?
As you trust teachers so much??

I believe this is a perfect example of Magdalen Berns' 'So open minded your brain fell out'.

Queer Theory. It fucks you up.

Anyway, this shows why many posters are so relaxed about KJK right wing links. They support some of the aims of the American Christian Right and think we should do the same here

I doubt any school trust would support a teacher in teaching that and I'm not sure what part of the curriculum it would be appropriate for

No.

We support the Christian right to have a view and see no need to condemn them.

Some teachers might make bad choices or have an agenda. It's probably better that it isn't just left up to individual teachers.

Really?

You now seem to think religious based schools will be entirely trustworthy.
No government scrutiny needed?

So the American Christian Right are - collectively bad? And can’t have a voice?

It isn't. There are trusts and governors that oversee whats on the curriculum. We have a national curriculum that keeps teachers busy. The American model doesn't apply here.

Honestly. Bonkers. Absolute moral panic over nothing.

Lots of parents trusted their kids wouldn't be taught about gender identity or explicit sexual activity.

Parental trust has broken down.
That's the problem.

Queer Theory. It fucks you up.

Adults who push it are part of that

You seem to have moved from:
Teacher's decide.
School's decide
Governors decide.
The government (national curriculum) decide.

Missing the point that whoever decides at whatever level: that is censorship.

I don't think it has

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/02/03/us/moms-for-liberty-scandal-opposition

This is what's happened in the US - parents find they don't support MFL in their actual schools because they know the teachers and what's being taught.

As much as some want to stir up a panic about LGBT teaching in schools online, it is not holding up on contact with reality. If it keeps people occupied though that's good.

Again, highly recommend a listen of this
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0b4zx31

Well the elections will tell us.

But trust has broken down enough for groups of parents in the USA and here to be challenging what is being taught.

Whether they're the majority is debatable.

But it's a reasonable objection to express. Even if you disagree.

Yes some people disagree with MFL.

That's no suprise.

What seems to suprise you is that some people agree with them. And that's ok.

No. What surprises me is some people denying the blindingly obvious truth and whining about meanie lefties.

I don't know why so many posters are in denial about KJK politics- she's not targeting me, my opinions are irrelevant. I just don't understand why people can't just go "yeah, she's a Trump supporter but I like her, get over it".

Instead it's constant ostriching- "no she isn't, prove it, you just hate right wingers, it's not her fault the far right love her, nothing wrong with a bit of book banning and calling trans people entitled and lazy is fine"

I'm with OP - from a human behaviour perspective it is fascinating.

Well I have pretty much said that.

Or at least: yes she's right wing and that doesn't bother me.

So not sure why you're quoting me.

I don’t think so. Establishing, deciding on censorship requires governmental authority at some level. The schools, teachers and what not then conduct censorship (ie following censor order). Private bodies- like MFL can petition and lobby for censorship by a governmental body.

So in your example, teachers, schools and governors conduct the censorship that the government decided on and ordered via the national curriculum.

I also disagree with kjk on the general discrimination of trans people she supported.

I'm against blanket discrimination of individuals based on group identity.

Whether they're trans, or right wing.

@EasternStandard

Do you start threads about them? You can’t take your eye off KJK for one post to even offer a name for someone on the left. Do you see why that’s not helping you?

It's a thread about KJK that I started. Why, then, is it necessary for me to start threads about left-wing activists for balance? (I'm fine, BTW.)

Make your own perfectly pure in every single way left wing campaign then!

Depends how you're defining censorship.

Parents censor their children's content without any government influence.

People with power deciding your content is censorship.
Children have many levels of censorship.

God you are being so condescending!

@CassieMaddox

You accuse other posters of using weasel words then do it yourself.

And asking for people to stop misrepresenting facts and provide evidence is not 'gaslighting'
(In the same way that someone saying something you don't like isn't what 'triggering' means).

Grow up! (unless you are actually 12 in which case I apologise).

Edited for clarity.