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KJK supports Trump

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NefertitiV · 31/05/2024 02:36

After the Trump verdict today, KJK retweeted three supportive tweets to her timeline, including one from US ex-Fox host Megyn Kelly that says "Guilty on all counts. The country is disgraced. Alvin Bragg should be disbarred. They will rue the day they released this lawfare to corrupt a presidential election."

Another tweet makes fun of President Biden's stutter.

This is someone currently up for election herself. Given her recent remarks about barring rentals to all trans people, and the fact she has received funding from US conservative political groups, does this concern you?

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nolongersurprised · 04/06/2024 09:21

AlisonDonut · 04/06/2024 08:29

This was a top down takeover, not a grass roots leftie human rights mission.

Everything about this turns everything on its head.

Which is why political purity spirals are not the lens on which to look at it.

I think gender ideology, as we know it, as the “trans rights are human rights” and “transwomen are women” started about 10 years ago as essentially a men’s right’s movement.

But it was the left that really brought it to life, particular in the US. Do you remember Elizabeth Warren campaigning on how “her pick for U.S. secretary of education would have to win approval from a “young trans person”?

i agree that political purity spirals shouldn’t be the lens through this gender ideology is viewed, but it’s become that way, hasn’t it?

If you publicly disagree that TWAW, eventually - along with bigot, transphobe and worse if you’re a woman - you’ll get called far-right. There was that Democrat judge who didn’t answer the “what is a woman” question because she “wasn’t a biologist”.

For women with daughters, in the US it seems you have to choose between single sex spaces, sex based language definitions, single sex sport OR access to safe and legal abortions. It’s reductive to say of you choose the former you’re right wing and the latter you’re left wing. Both options are shit

Trumpetoftheswan2 · 04/06/2024 09:21

Oh yes, you're right. She advised employers not to employ trans people, including women who identify as trans because she knows people who find trans people 'lazy, entitled and difficult to work with'.

To be clear, she advocates for denying employment to women who have been caught up in the gender cult.

I agree with posters who say that women's rights needs to be for all women, including those who have been harmed by patriarchy.

BezMills · 04/06/2024 09:26

So, KJK, the one that is in the running for Most Forthright Commentator 2024. The same KJK who is often criticised on here for Being A Bit Extra. The KJK that has her own youtube and is online speaking her own words on a weekly basis. The KJK who lets us all know what's on her mind, quite frequently and has never once been observed to be shy to make a point.

That KJK, is a secret Trump supporter. She never mentions it because it's a bit hush hush, and she doesn't like to say what she means, does she.

It's a preposterous hypothesis.

Datun · 04/06/2024 09:28

AlisonDonut · 04/06/2024 09:21

No.

Her insurance was paid by CPAC. Because she couldn't get insurance from anywhere else. And no insurance, no visit.

What checks have you done on all your insurance companies in your lifetime to check that none of them had ties to anything non left? I'm guessing none.

I believe her insurance and security runs to tens of thousands of pounds

As I said:

"The other thing thing to bear mind is that she has been attacked physically and genuinely thought she'd lose her life, her entire family including her children and grandparents have been targeted, doxxed, threatened, etc. She requires security at all her public appearances (and even this is targeted when it's not paid for by the right kind of people)."

When you attack her only choice of security/insurance, on the basis that you don't approve of their politics, there's no way you're not thigh deep in personal antipathy towards the woman herself.

I've no idea who Moms for liberty are. But I strongly suspect it's the 'moms' part she has affinity for.

As she says, the devil himself. She doesn't give a flying fuck what these peoples politics are, if their children are affected by the ideology, they get the metaphorical mic.

AlisonDonut · 04/06/2024 09:29

nolongersurprised · 04/06/2024 09:21

I think gender ideology, as we know it, as the “trans rights are human rights” and “transwomen are women” started about 10 years ago as essentially a men’s right’s movement.

But it was the left that really brought it to life, particular in the US. Do you remember Elizabeth Warren campaigning on how “her pick for U.S. secretary of education would have to win approval from a “young trans person”?

i agree that political purity spirals shouldn’t be the lens through this gender ideology is viewed, but it’s become that way, hasn’t it?

If you publicly disagree that TWAW, eventually - along with bigot, transphobe and worse if you’re a woman - you’ll get called far-right. There was that Democrat judge who didn’t answer the “what is a woman” question because she “wasn’t a biologist”.

For women with daughters, in the US it seems you have to choose between single sex spaces, sex based language definitions, single sex sport OR access to safe and legal abortions. It’s reductive to say of you choose the former you’re right wing and the latter you’re left wing. Both options are shit

I know all this.

The left have fallen for it because of the deviousness of the high priests who have bought their way into the 'social justice warrior' framework by force teaming and buying the support of grass roots organisations.

Stonewall took funding, The Greens took funding, the Lib Dems took funding, various Labour MPs took funding [and jollies].

Unfortunately the old adage 'power corrupts' is blatantly bloody obvious in this case.

Look at the way that PIE got into the Left back in the 70s. They are so 'oppressor/oppressed' based that they see victims and rush to help. Unfortunately they have been duped, again and again.

Present yourself as the oppressed and the Left rush to give you something to lean on and help you take the power back. Unfortunately in this case, the 'power' was to put rapists in women's prisons and to allow men to show their penises to girls and not one of the women or girls was allowed to challenge that or they would be pilloried.

nolongersurprised · 04/06/2024 09:32

BezMills · 04/06/2024 09:26

So, KJK, the one that is in the running for Most Forthright Commentator 2024. The same KJK who is often criticised on here for Being A Bit Extra. The KJK that has her own youtube and is online speaking her own words on a weekly basis. The KJK who lets us all know what's on her mind, quite frequently and has never once been observed to be shy to make a point.

That KJK, is a secret Trump supporter. She never mentions it because it's a bit hush hush, and she doesn't like to say what she means, does she.

It's a preposterous hypothesis.

That made me laugh out loud, genuinely. You’re right, KJR is just so shy, isn’t she?

Datun · 04/06/2024 09:37

BezMills · 04/06/2024 09:26

So, KJK, the one that is in the running for Most Forthright Commentator 2024. The same KJK who is often criticised on here for Being A Bit Extra. The KJK that has her own youtube and is online speaking her own words on a weekly basis. The KJK who lets us all know what's on her mind, quite frequently and has never once been observed to be shy to make a point.

That KJK, is a secret Trump supporter. She never mentions it because it's a bit hush hush, and she doesn't like to say what she means, does she.

It's a preposterous hypothesis.

Haha!! So true.

I genuinely think it's her gobbiness that winds people up. She wants to nail this woman and child hating ideology, and she doesn't give a flying fuck how she does it.

Let's face it, those who think she's not doing it right have to go out of their way to say my next door neighbour's, nephew's, delivery driver's cat saw her roll her eyes at Keir Starmer.

Trumpetoftheswan2 · 04/06/2024 09:41

You're right. She doesn't hide who she is.

She's said that Trump is her man, is happy to derive her merch from MAGA and is happy for the far right to show up at her events.

And she openly calls for discrimination against women who identify as trans.

Laugh as loudly as you like to try to ignore these inconvenient truths.

BezMills · 04/06/2024 09:45

She's said that "Trump is her man"

OK we're on page 37, that's almost 900 posts on a thread predicated that she loooooves trump and I've repeatedly invited this binfire of the vanities to produce a quote from her saying she's into Trump. And here we are with yet another unsubstantiated assertion.

NefertitiV · 04/06/2024 09:48

@AlisonDonut

I've no idea who Moms for liberty are. But I strongly suspect it's the 'moms' part she has affinity for.

It isn't just the Moms part. It because Moms for Liberty is a conservative activist group that focuses on eliminating LBGT material from curriculums and adding critical race theory. They also campaign school libraries to ban books and were against mask and vaccine mandates during Covid. They're influential within the Republican Party and have associations with the Proud Boys.

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Datun · 04/06/2024 09:56

NefertitiV · 04/06/2024 09:48

@AlisonDonut

I've no idea who Moms for liberty are. But I strongly suspect it's the 'moms' part she has affinity for.

It isn't just the Moms part. It because Moms for Liberty is a conservative activist group that focuses on eliminating LBGT material from curriculums and adding critical race theory. They also campaign school libraries to ban books and were against mask and vaccine mandates during Covid. They're influential within the Republican Party and have associations with the Proud Boys.

So what do you think she's supporting? Could it possibly be the TRA books in schools?

And lumping LGB with the T?

Honestly. If I was marking homework, this would be try harder.

AlisonDonut · 04/06/2024 09:57

NefertitiV · 04/06/2024 09:48

@AlisonDonut

I've no idea who Moms for liberty are. But I strongly suspect it's the 'moms' part she has affinity for.

It isn't just the Moms part. It because Moms for Liberty is a conservative activist group that focuses on eliminating LBGT material from curriculums and adding critical race theory. They also campaign school libraries to ban books and were against mask and vaccine mandates during Covid. They're influential within the Republican Party and have associations with the Proud Boys.

I never mentioned Moms for liberty.

But loads of people are going to not want to see their girls having mastectomies. Right wingers, left wingers, centrists.

Having conniptions (thanks Peter Boghossian) about people speaking to other people or being 'connected' to other people...I mean really? Are you 12?

AlisonDonut · 04/06/2024 10:02

Do you think we can get a screen shot or link to the 'Trump is her man' quote (in an election she cannot vote in) by the end of the thread?

CassieMaddox · 04/06/2024 10:03

AlisonDonut · 04/06/2024 09:21

No.

Her insurance was paid by CPAC. Because she couldn't get insurance from anywhere else. And no insurance, no visit.

What checks have you done on all your insurance companies in your lifetime to check that none of them had ties to anything non left? I'm guessing none.

CPAC say they paid her flights. Their branding was all over her appearances.

Honestly. This is like gaslighting and is why these threads are impossible.

CassieMaddox · 04/06/2024 10:06

nolongersurprised · 04/06/2024 09:21

I think gender ideology, as we know it, as the “trans rights are human rights” and “transwomen are women” started about 10 years ago as essentially a men’s right’s movement.

But it was the left that really brought it to life, particular in the US. Do you remember Elizabeth Warren campaigning on how “her pick for U.S. secretary of education would have to win approval from a “young trans person”?

i agree that political purity spirals shouldn’t be the lens through this gender ideology is viewed, but it’s become that way, hasn’t it?

If you publicly disagree that TWAW, eventually - along with bigot, transphobe and worse if you’re a woman - you’ll get called far-right. There was that Democrat judge who didn’t answer the “what is a woman” question because she “wasn’t a biologist”.

For women with daughters, in the US it seems you have to choose between single sex spaces, sex based language definitions, single sex sport OR access to safe and legal abortions. It’s reductive to say of you choose the former you’re right wing and the latter you’re left wing. Both options are shit

I've been openly GC for over 10 years. I've been called a transphobe and a bigot for that. I've never been called far right Confused

CassieMaddox · 04/06/2024 10:08

AlisonDonut · 04/06/2024 09:29

I know all this.

The left have fallen for it because of the deviousness of the high priests who have bought their way into the 'social justice warrior' framework by force teaming and buying the support of grass roots organisations.

Stonewall took funding, The Greens took funding, the Lib Dems took funding, various Labour MPs took funding [and jollies].

Unfortunately the old adage 'power corrupts' is blatantly bloody obvious in this case.

Look at the way that PIE got into the Left back in the 70s. They are so 'oppressor/oppressed' based that they see victims and rush to help. Unfortunately they have been duped, again and again.

Present yourself as the oppressed and the Left rush to give you something to lean on and help you take the power back. Unfortunately in this case, the 'power' was to put rapists in women's prisons and to allow men to show their penises to girls and not one of the women or girls was allowed to challenge that or they would be pilloried.

🙄

Maybe look at how Geert Wilders got elected in the Netherlands. Or Viktor Orban in Hungary.

MalagaNights · 04/06/2024 10:10

NefertitiV · 04/06/2024 09:48

@AlisonDonut

I've no idea who Moms for liberty are. But I strongly suspect it's the 'moms' part she has affinity for.

It isn't just the Moms part. It because Moms for Liberty is a conservative activist group that focuses on eliminating LBGT material from curriculums and adding critical race theory. They also campaign school libraries to ban books and were against mask and vaccine mandates during Covid. They're influential within the Republican Party and have associations with the Proud Boys.

All sounds good to me.

Which of the books mums for liberty wants out of schools do you want in?
Mandatory child covid vaccination hardly seems like a wacky thing to be against now does it?
Everyone including Fauci now admits masks were pretty pointless.
Being a republican is quite normal and mainstream.

Even if you disagree with all the above, it's hardly the proof of evil you seem to think it is.

All you've got is "association' with some 'bad things' or bad people which ultimately just seems to lead to reasonable opinions which differ from yours.

The suggestion of people being bad for having right wing opinions is so so old and tiresome.

When will some people wake up to this being a weak toothless strategy.

nolongersurprised · 04/06/2024 10:11

WomanXXWorldsOriginsofMothersofAllNations · 04/06/2024 08:32

All those who believe that KJK is catching cooties from the big bad right turning up at open events because they agree that men cannot be women, and is therefore tainting the GC message; do you really think that the political left are incapable of seeing the issues of believing TWAW will have on single sex spaces? That they will somehow be unable to apply any critical thought because they won’t be able to see past the fact that someone with differing politics is supporting something then that something must be ‘bad’?

Do you have so little respect for those on the left that you’d believe they’d be this dim?

It’s interesting, because I think there’s been a shift on the left, even in the US when it comes to gender ideology. Whenever there’s a GC piece in the NYT most commenters do now express their concerns about men in women’s spaces, sport, hormonal manipulation of children.

But - most start with, “I’m a life-long Democrat…”

So where do they go from here? The Democrats have embraced this, no GC left-wing spokespeople have emerged to openly challenge this, their leaders clearly won’t.

In the US who you vote for seems to be such an important part of your identity. Do you speak out and have people call you a Trump supporter (which is apparently the big bad, according to people on this thread) or hope your politicians will chance their stance, even though they seem to be doubling down?

It’s interesting, and if Trump’s advisors are clever (he’s clearly not) he’ll adopt same sex spaces as a campaign point.

Leaving women with a Sophie’s choice. would you rather your daughter had access to safe abortion or would you vote for her to be able to get changed for swimming without a male staring at her?

NefertitiV · 04/06/2024 10:11

@AlisonDonut

I never mentioned Moms for liberty.

My apologies. That was @Datun.

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nolongersurprised · 04/06/2024 10:11

CassieMaddox · 04/06/2024 10:06

I've been openly GC for over 10 years. I've been called a transphobe and a bigot for that. I've never been called far right Confused

Ok…

AlisonDonut · 04/06/2024 10:12

CassieMaddox · 04/06/2024 10:03

CPAC say they paid her flights. Their branding was all over her appearances.

Honestly. This is like gaslighting and is why these threads are impossible.

It isn't gaslighting. It was a way to get you to say that you know full well she wasn't 'sponsored' by them.

They offered to cover her insurance. If she negotiated flights as well, then good on her. It's an expensive business disrupting two whole nations in one go. Money well spent.

EasternStandard · 04/06/2024 10:15

NefertitiV · 04/06/2024 10:11

@AlisonDonut

I never mentioned Moms for liberty.

My apologies. That was @Datun.

Op do you follow left wing funders or similar disrupters who you approve of?

Are they doing things like flying to NZ and risking their life so women can speak?

Can you share some names.. all this spotlight on KJK is no doubt helping her hugely, but if you want other women in the mix who are they?

MalagaNights · 04/06/2024 10:15

CassieMaddox · 04/06/2024 10:03

CPAC say they paid her flights. Their branding was all over her appearances.

Honestly. This is like gaslighting and is why these threads are impossible.

I actually agree.

I don't know why posters try to obfuscate on kjk being aligned with right wing organisations?

She obviously has some now right leaning views and allies.

You don't have to agree with her.
Or deny it.

You just have to say: I don't care. I may disagree, but admire her bravery and feel no need to denounce or brand as bad right wing women.

I just choose to disagree or agree with them on various topics.

CassieMaddox · 04/06/2024 10:15

MalagaNights · 04/06/2024 10:10

All sounds good to me.

Which of the books mums for liberty wants out of schools do you want in?
Mandatory child covid vaccination hardly seems like a wacky thing to be against now does it?
Everyone including Fauci now admits masks were pretty pointless.
Being a republican is quite normal and mainstream.

Even if you disagree with all the above, it's hardly the proof of evil you seem to think it is.

All you've got is "association' with some 'bad things' or bad people which ultimately just seems to lead to reasonable opinions which differ from yours.

The suggestion of people being bad for having right wing opinions is so so old and tiresome.

When will some people wake up to this being a weak toothless strategy.

Banning books is a ridiculous tactic straight out of the American Christian Right. Books don't corrupt people. I don't want to live in a country where books are banned. It is censorship.

(Bonus points for which GC feminist icon has had their books banned in the US for being dangerous to children).

nolongersurprised · 04/06/2024 10:16

MalagaNights · 04/06/2024 10:10

All sounds good to me.

Which of the books mums for liberty wants out of schools do you want in?
Mandatory child covid vaccination hardly seems like a wacky thing to be against now does it?
Everyone including Fauci now admits masks were pretty pointless.
Being a republican is quite normal and mainstream.

Even if you disagree with all the above, it's hardly the proof of evil you seem to think it is.

All you've got is "association' with some 'bad things' or bad people which ultimately just seems to lead to reasonable opinions which differ from yours.

The suggestion of people being bad for having right wing opinions is so so old and tiresome.

When will some people wake up to this being a weak toothless strategy.

Wasn’t one of those books the comic “This Book is Gay” with graphic pics of blow jobs and genitals? And someone in a packer?

I mean, I wouldn’t want my 12 year old, first year in high school daughter reading that either. Terrible quality of book as well

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