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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

KJK supports Trump

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NefertitiV · 31/05/2024 02:36

After the Trump verdict today, KJK retweeted three supportive tweets to her timeline, including one from US ex-Fox host Megyn Kelly that says "Guilty on all counts. The country is disgraced. Alvin Bragg should be disbarred. They will rue the day they released this lawfare to corrupt a presidential election."

Another tweet makes fun of President Biden's stutter.

This is someone currently up for election herself. Given her recent remarks about barring rentals to all trans people, and the fact she has received funding from US conservative political groups, does this concern you?

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CassieMaddox · 03/06/2024 20:26

Murica · 03/06/2024 19:28

Here is a question. Say KJK comes out and says "Trump for president", would that give posters pause for thought?

Why would it? Since this is a UK board there are only a few American posters here. It's all academic for anyone other than US citizens. There aren't going to be many American women who are waiting for Posie Parker to tell them who to vote for. You think a MAGA hat is going to hypnotize us or something?

I got these screenshot via a link on KJK twitter about a Tommy Robinson march at the weekend.
You might think Trump is irrelevant here but the far right certainly don't appear to.

KJK supports Trump
KJK supports Trump
GenderBlender · 03/06/2024 20:28

It is also quite unsettling that these valid concerns are not recognised by some of her accolites on here, even if they don't agree. Instead of accepting that there may be cause for some to have valid concerns preferring to ascribe this to having a 'vested interest in the status quo'. This lack of critical thinking and displays akin to hero worship, just make me doubt more.

NoWordForFluffy · 03/06/2024 21:00

GenderBlender · 03/06/2024 20:23

Not sure I see anyone telling anyone else how to vote. But, whatever.

As I said for me, intents matter. KJK showing support for Trump makes me question her motivations. I simply cannot believe that anyone who supports Trump is motivated by protecting the rights of women and children. It just doesn't add up and it makes me very wary of her.

I was referring to this:

'Here is a question. Say KJK comes out and says "Trump for president", would that give posters pause for thought?

Why would it? Since this is a UK board there are only a few American posters here. It's all academic for anyone other than US citizens. There aren't going to be many American women who are waiting for Posie Parker to tell them who to vote for. You think a MAGA hat is going to hypnotize us or something?'

At least follow the thread!

Trumpetoftheswan2 · 03/06/2024 21:05

I tend to agree. KJK did declare that Trump was her man at the last US election, or possibly the mid-terms, viz a viz the Republicans views on women's rights being, on the surface, more appealing than the Democrats.

You don't have to know much about contemporary US politics to be aware that the Republican's position on sex and gender resulted in the overturning of Roe vs Wade and the deeply anti-women abortion laws and policies now in lots of states.

They know what a woman is because they want her at home, pregnant, house-keeping and child-rearing.

The 'make women female again' hat is clearly derivative of the MAGA merch.

Yet people tie themselves into knots trying to convince themselves that KJK's politics are progressive.

Each to their own, but the links that have been forged between gender critical feminism and the far right are damaging, not least to public perception.

Trumpetoftheswan2 · 03/06/2024 21:06

I don't think a MAGA hat is going to hypnotise anyone but associations matter.

See: the fuss about the film company calling their film 'adult human female' a couple of years ago.

AlisonDonut · 03/06/2024 21:13

Trumpetoftheswan2 · 03/06/2024 21:06

I don't think a MAGA hat is going to hypnotise anyone but associations matter.

See: the fuss about the film company calling their film 'adult human female' a couple of years ago.

So they stole her words and that's her fault now? What you think she can turn back time and disassociate herself from people stealing her ideas?

Right ho. She is gaining power by the day according it would seem.

mrshoho · 03/06/2024 21:45

CassieMaddox · 03/06/2024 20:26

I got these screenshot via a link on KJK twitter about a Tommy Robinson march at the weekend.
You might think Trump is irrelevant here but the far right certainly don't appear to.

What do you mean by a link on KJK twitter? Did she post these? Did she share them? It's not clear from your post. Please could you explain how these are connected to her.

CassieMaddox · 03/06/2024 21:45

Trumpetoftheswan2 · 03/06/2024 21:05

I tend to agree. KJK did declare that Trump was her man at the last US election, or possibly the mid-terms, viz a viz the Republicans views on women's rights being, on the surface, more appealing than the Democrats.

You don't have to know much about contemporary US politics to be aware that the Republican's position on sex and gender resulted in the overturning of Roe vs Wade and the deeply anti-women abortion laws and policies now in lots of states.

They know what a woman is because they want her at home, pregnant, house-keeping and child-rearing.

The 'make women female again' hat is clearly derivative of the MAGA merch.

Yet people tie themselves into knots trying to convince themselves that KJK's politics are progressive.

Each to their own, but the links that have been forged between gender critical feminism and the far right are damaging, not least to public perception.

Very well said 👏

NoWordForFluffy · 03/06/2024 21:47

mrshoho · 03/06/2024 21:45

What do you mean by a link on KJK twitter? Did she post these? Did she share them? It's not clear from your post. Please could you explain how these are connected to her.

The grooming leaflets are her creation, able to be bought by anyone who wants them from her website. Because somebody attending TR's rally purchased them, apparently that means KJK supports TR. Or something!

CassieMaddox · 03/06/2024 21:49

mrshoho · 03/06/2024 21:45

What do you mean by a link on KJK twitter? Did she post these? Did she share them? It's not clear from your post. Please could you explain how these are connected to her.

Here- I clicked through from this RT
She can't control who buys her merchandise, I was using the screen shots to show there are plenty of UK based far right Trump lovers, despite what PP were saying about him being irrelevant in the UK

KJK supports Trump
Trumpetoftheswan2 · 03/06/2024 22:09

AlisonDonut · 03/06/2024 21:13

So they stole her words and that's her fault now? What you think she can turn back time and disassociate herself from people stealing her ideas?

Right ho. She is gaining power by the day according it would seem.

No. I mean they used the words in the dictionary and her fans were in an uproar and somehow they were 'her words'.

Which I think you knew.

Trumpetoftheswan2 · 03/06/2024 22:16

Yes, anyone can buy KJK's merch, but does anyone have shots of Sex Matters, WRN, WPUK, KPSS, Transgender Trend and so on leaflets being handed out at far right marches/protests?

Or the far right showing up to those meetings?

Or Maya Forester, Helen Joyce, Stephanie D-O on webchats with Carl Benjamin and the like?

You have to be a complete mental contortionist to pretend that there isn't a strong association between KJK and elements of the far right which, as she has said, she has no problem with.

This is all fine if those are your politics. It's the pretending that these events and instances haven't happened which is so disingenuous.

Trumpetoftheswan2 · 03/06/2024 22:17

Oh yes 'they stole her words'. Absolutely, those words belonged to KJK and exist only for her to monetarise. No other context that they could possibly be used in.

mrshoho · 03/06/2024 22:23

CassieMaddox · 03/06/2024 21:49

Here- I clicked through from this RT
She can't control who buys her merchandise, I was using the screen shots to show there are plenty of UK based far right Trump lovers, despite what PP were saying about him being irrelevant in the UK

Thanks for clarifying. So clearly not links that KJK has promoted in any way.

AlisonDonut · 03/06/2024 22:24

Trumpetoftheswan2 · 03/06/2024 22:16

Yes, anyone can buy KJK's merch, but does anyone have shots of Sex Matters, WRN, WPUK, KPSS, Transgender Trend and so on leaflets being handed out at far right marches/protests?

Or the far right showing up to those meetings?

Or Maya Forester, Helen Joyce, Stephanie D-O on webchats with Carl Benjamin and the like?

You have to be a complete mental contortionist to pretend that there isn't a strong association between KJK and elements of the far right which, as she has said, she has no problem with.

This is all fine if those are your politics. It's the pretending that these events and instances haven't happened which is so disingenuous.

And?

You guys are utterly obsessed.

The issue I have is the same as I'd have with incessant threads about anyone, particularly when they cannot have a right of reply.

Why does she have to answer to you exactly?

Who even are you to demand purity of thought and deed?

People come from all sides on this topic. You need to get your heads around that fact.

Trumpetoftheswan2 · 03/06/2024 22:28

KJK doesn't have to answer to me. I'm writing on a thread started by OP. I haven't posted on this board for a couple of years so not sure if I'm not of 'you guys'.

I don't believe I mentioned purity of thought and deed, just KJK's political allegiances, which this thread is about.

Trumpetoftheswan2 · 03/06/2024 22:29

"People come from all sides on this topic. You need to get your heads around that fact."

Yes, there are lots of viewpoints on this thread alone. That's okay, isn't it?

AstonScrapingsNameChange · 03/06/2024 22:59

She is providing an interesting protest party, like the greens used to be. She's not going to get elected but she's doing a lot to ensure single sex spaces get taken seriously as an issue this election, which is really important.

What I really object to on this thread and elsewhere is people trying to dismiss her out of hand because of some of her possible associations.

Often these assertions can't even be proved - she's being demonised because of something someone's brother once read on twitter or whatever, not because of her own specific actions. It's similar to what happens to JKR - people don't even know what she's supposed to have said or done, just that it's 'wrong'. (Yes I realise they are very different women both in their approach and political views, but there is a parallel in how they're being treated).

I don't like the way she seems to be judged for her associations in a way that other politicians aren't. I don't like the way women who support her, or even say they don't not support her, get demonised and told they are fans who have fallen to the cult of her personality. I don't like the way some of her words are misquoted and taken out of context to suit a particular narrative.

I don't like Trump. If she does, that wouldn't necessarily stop me supporting her. I'm never going to agree with the person I vote for on everything! Id certainly need to see something like actual evidence of her actively campaigning for policies like his policies to be implemented in the UK to put me off.

I think she's tenacious, strong, a successful disrupter, and brave to stick her neck out for women's rights. I also think she's not especially politically savvy - she's very unfiltered and doesn't appear to care how she can be misinterpreted- and that might start to be a problem for her now she's entered the formal political arena.

Why does everything have to be so black or white? Real life isn't.

I can hold more than one opinion about her at the same time.

It's clear there are issues for women's rights on both the left and right in the UK and USA.

As I said on another thread, I wonder whether the posters here scolding women for being too right wing are equally critical of men who are making difficult political compromises- or whether they save their scorn for women.

Criticising women for being not pure enough - how progressive.

AlisonDonut · 03/06/2024 23:00

Trumpetoftheswan2 · 03/06/2024 22:28

KJK doesn't have to answer to me. I'm writing on a thread started by OP. I haven't posted on this board for a couple of years so not sure if I'm not of 'you guys'.

I don't believe I mentioned purity of thought and deed, just KJK's political allegiances, which this thread is about.

If she had political allegiances, surely she'd not bother starting a brand new party?

JanesLittleGirl · 03/06/2024 23:05

She has managed to stimulate 2,000 posts across three threads on FWR so she is having some impact.

Trumpetoftheswan2 · 03/06/2024 23:12

I don't think I have 'scolded' anyone for being too right-wing - merely pointed out that her views align with a lot of especially the US right. It's up to her what she believes, what she says, who she associates with, as it's up to the electorate to comment on those things.

KJK has spoken about her political allegiances. She believes that Trump is her man. She's happy for the far right to show up at her SFW events. It's not a stance that I would support, but she's entitled to align with whatever politics she likes. As the electorate are entitled to comment.

Trumpetoftheswan2 · 03/06/2024 23:13

Tes, KJK has had a considerable impact. Her adult human female campaign was excellent marketing. Her forging associations between gender criticism and the far right not so much (in my view).

NoWordForFluffy · 03/06/2024 23:14

She's happy for the far right to show up at her SFW events.

Receipts for this please.

Trumpetoftheswan2 · 03/06/2024 23:16

Just to be clear, OP started this thread about KJK and her her transphobic comments and support of the right-wing. If those things don't interest you, maybe don't bother reading the thread?

Just an observation, but some posters seem very keen to censor any discussion on these matters.

Trumpetoftheswan2 · 03/06/2024 23:18

NoWordForFluffy she's say many times that everyone is welcome at her events. When left-wing feminists have asked her to discourage/put a statement about the far right showing up in eg Brighton a couple of years ago, she refused on that basis.

As I've said several times, entirely up to her and entirely up to other people to comment if they wish.

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