Emma Corrin and 'homophobia'

[IdgieThreadgoodeIsMyHeroine]

Emma Corrin claims to have experienced homophobia since 'coming out' as non-binary.

Emma Corrin is in a relationship with Rami Malek.

Make it make sense.

You’ve misgendered emma you bigot

but then you think men can be women and therefore lesbians do can’t say I’m shocked

Well Emma could have written bi-phobia but plenty of people still don't understand what that is, I imagine Emma was using language that was accessible to most people.

And of course the reality is, Emma can have experienced homophobic abuse whenever they are read as gay and the abuse levelled at them is based on that perception.

Why don't the 2 of you kiss for us?'

That isn't just asked of lesbians. I'd bet a large proportion of women on here on a night out with friends have been asked countless times "why don't the 2 of you kiss for us" It used to happen to me and my mates nearly every time we went for a night out in my younger days.

Meant queer phobia rather than bi-phobia

Ok, and depending on how the situation escalates, and the background and overall circumstances to the case the police might decide that homophobia was a motivating factor.

www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-50600887

The point is nobody think she's gay. She's not claiming people think she's gay. She's claiming that because she has a special internal identity of non binary even though she's a female in a heterosexual relationship she experiences homophobia because of her identity. Which is impossible, and insulting.

The fact that's she's never said she's gay and she's in a very public relationship with a man is why we say she's not gay. She might be bi of course but if nobody knows she's bi then she's not going to get abuse on the basis of it is she?

This is really quite obtuse now.

Of course Emma could be thought of as gay by people who don't know.

This is sufficient for homophobia to be a relevant factor in abuse.

But ... any woman could be assumed to be a lesbian. Emma Corrin is no more or less likely to get mistaken for a lesbian as any other woman.

No, you're being obtuse, because what you are positing is not what Emma claims has happened. Of course if she was a rando out with her lesbian friends she might be read as a lesbian and might experience homophobia (though as a woman who has literally been in that situation, it didn't wound me personally, as I am not a lesbian, it wounded me on behalf of my friends, so unless that homophobia becomes physical aggression, which is possible but rare, being a straight woman experiencing misdirected homophobia is not a big deal) but that's NOT WHAT SHE IS CLAIMING AND NOT THE SUBJECT OF THE THREAD

But...but short hair!!! (Apparently)

You're kidding. Seriously? Is that what this boils down to?

That's absolutely fine.

And if any woman is subject to targeted abuse based on an actual or mistaken belief that they are gay, they have been subject to homophobia.

It just means she is bisexual in that case. Not queer

I once had hair as short as Emma

No one mistook me for a lesbian on account of the fact I was dating a man. You know just like Emma is

No. People cannot use 'homophobia' to mean 'queerphobia'. Homophobia has a specific meaning and it is not acceptable for people to use it to mean something else.

More language appropriation by TRA. Just can’t help themselves

She would only be bisexual if she was sexually attracted to men and women.

Yes. I’d like to know what she actually experienced.
Im assuming it will be something like not enough fawning and adulatory praise when she came out as non binary. Poor woman they/them.
We mere mortals cannot comprehend of her their suffering.

Edited to take out sex specific pronouns because I don’t want to cause the downtrodden they/thems even more suffering

That's a very good point- as an analogy, if someone mistook me for Jewish and shouted something anti-semitic at me, I'd be angry about the anti-semitism and offended on behalf of Jews, but it wouldn't affect me anywhere near as much as it would affect a Jewish person, because anti-semitism hasn't been a constant presence in my life.

I imagine it would be the same to be a straight person subjected to a homophobic comment because they were assumed to be gay.

If you were assaulted because someone believed you were Jewish, would you think that the anti-Semitism of the offender should be noted or not in the crime write up?

If you think that shouldn't be noted because you are not actually Jewish yourself, you are doing a huge disservice to Jewish people out there, who need it to be noted when crimes are motivated by hatred towards them so that policing and legislation can recognise patterns of targeted crime.

Oh, I absolutely agree in that situation it should be recorded as an anti-semitic hate crime. And if a straight person is verbally abused or assaulted because they are mistakenly assumed to be gay, it should be recorded as a homophobic hate crime.

But- and let us be very clear here- this is not what Emma Corrin has said has happened.

But you don't know what Emma has experienced, do you?

You haven't, as far as I am aware, engaged Emma is a forensic examination of their entire life experiences.

Why are you disbelieving them?

Actually, OP can you please put down the explicit quote where Emma says they have faced homophobia, because at the moment I can only see this phrase used by journalists.