Emma Corrin and 'homophobia'

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Emma Corrin claims to have experienced homophobia since 'coming out' as non-binary.

Emma Corrin is in a relationship with Rami Malek.

Make it make sense.

Boy and girl are not describing gender identity. They are describing the sex of a juvenile male or female human . So not assigned either.

Lol

I don't think you can be clearly, perceptibly and blatantly female without buying into traditional stereotypes about what being female is.

What utter drivel!

Berga literally does not understand what sex is. When we talk about sex markers, Berga processes it as if we had said gender stereotypes or gender presentation. Berga would look at a man presenting in a stereotypically feminine or over-sexualised way and decide that we are just too hung up on "gender stereotypes" (like shoulder-to-hip ratio, or brow ridges, or indeed penis bulge) to see that he's a woman. Blatantly female, look at those shoes.

I mean, they'd have beautiful babies. Which I guess answers any questions.

This is unfair. Wombats are, if a little stubborn at times, absolutely delightful creatures.

Forget Emma Corrin for a moment -- a bisexual person can be in an opposite sex relationship and have experienced homophobia. You can't just assume that someone is straight because they're currently in a heterosexual relationship. That's got nothing to do with nonbinary or not, either.

"Some women have been made so ashamed of their bodies they think acknowledging they exist is the cause of sexism."

• Victoria Smith, March 2019

Yes, of course. But that's not what Emma Corrin is claiming. She's claiming that because she claims to be non binary she's experienced homophobia.

I have no idea who Emma Corrin is. But I'd wager a Grimbut Gerbil on her being famous for doing a thing that is about her performing some sort of clearly, perceptively and blatantly female stereotypes.

It is often something like playing a female as an actor. Or something similar.

I mean, there is some serious competition there. Sam Smith?

I LOVE Victoria Smith. Love her. My favourite feminist writer.

She's most famous for playing Princess Diana. Who EC claims was "queer". I'll just let that sink in for a minute.

Homophobia, as a hate crime, can be based on the perpetrator's perception that an individual is gay, rather than the reality of that status for the victim.

I thought that was widely known already? But seemingly not according to this thread.

"at the time of committing the offence, or immediately before or after doing so, the offender demonstrated hostility towards the victim based upon the sexual orientation (or presumed sexual orientation) of the victim"

https://www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/homophobic-biphobic-and-transphobic-hate-crime-prosecution-guidance

But no one thinks Emma Corrin is gay. And they specifically linked the homophobia to 'coming out' as non-binary, which has fuck all to do with being gay.

Who are you to say nobody thinks Emma is gay?

If she is was in my social group of gay women she would very much be read as gay if she didn't say otherwise, and very popular with the singles amongst us 😂

So, going back to my earlier question...

"How is this supposed homophobia manifesting itself? What abuse, physical or verbal, has Corrin been subjected to on the basis of Corrins homosexuality?"

"She?"

Tsk tsk tsk. Misgendering is a hate crime

Seems to me like you are subjecting Emma to the same misgynistic tropes women have ensured for years. Short hair and doesn't wear girly clothes? Must be a lezza, hey?

I think if Emma's 'experiencing' anything at all it'll be selfabsorbedtwataphobia.

I don't know or read much about Emma as I'm not slavishly devoted to slagging off gay/queer /trans people, so not familiar with their pronouns.

Anyway, Emma is likely to be read as gay when out and about, especially when out with women who can be read as gay (paparazzi shots of Emma indicate that this is often the case)

If the experiences are anything like the rest of us Emma will have been taunted with ' Which one's the man?', ... 'Why don't the 2 of you kiss for us?' ete etc.

Depending on Emma's response this could then be followed up with more serious abuse, and of course there are plenty cases where a physical assault has been launched after such an initial exchange.

I didn't need to look that one up in the dictionary to agree with it. Honestly NB people need to get over themselves, nobody 'feels' female or male, they just are. It's such a lot of attention seeking nonsense. Just the fact that people feel the need to 'come out' as NB - why would anyone else need to know or even care? Oh yes of course, so they can call you by your 'look how speshul I am' pronouns.

Anyone who knows enough about Emma Corrin to know they are non-binary will also know that they are dating Rami Malek.

I see your point that if someone passed EC on the street, they could be read as a lesbian, but that is not what they have said has happened. They have said that the 'homophobia' was in response to them being non-binary.

My original post literally said that Emma Corrin is non-binary...

She's not complaining about being wrongly read as gay though so you're completely missing the point. You're also completely making up what might or might not have happened to her.