The TRA banging thr symbol in the horses face

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How can anyone watch this and yet still side with trans rights?
Do people think this behaviour is justified, because GC women wanting to protect their rights are evil incarnate?

Why is this behaviour not peaking the world?

And why do so many otherwise sane individuals think its OK to refer to a rapist as she and house him in a women's prison?

I've just had enough of it all.

You can if you want to get a warning from MN 🤣

apologies, I missed that part where you said that and I agree

I have to I wish I had used this line at the start of the thread but switched out the groups. That wss my point tnst you articulated far better than I.

There seems to be some overly simplistic thinking behind associating a person or even multiple people attending a women's rights rally as being only ever 'aligned' with those women.

Why would I get a warning from MNHQ? I try to remain factual and accurate at all times and I also remain within the 'in the spirit' posting guidelines too because the reality is that posting otherwise doesn't achieve much and is probably best described as 'fuckwittery'.

If you write “”Sure” as a response to every question you will absolutely get a warning!

And which part of the Talk Guidelines will that have breached, then?

no bloody clue.

I am going to ask you to clarify what you mean here.

Or again, should I just reply 'sure'. Do you see how that works?

I would suggest it would be the posting in the 'spirit' guideline that would be broken.

If you haven't come across it, be sure to look it up.

Yes I can clarify this.

My point was in response to the OP suggesting that the pathetic actions of this individual in the video were somehow representative of an entire movement of people.

That male protestor seems to be directly linked to the trans rights protestors.

Plus, that male protestors behaviour seems to have been replicated by other male protestors who seem to identify themselves as trans rights protestors.

Plus those male protestors actions have been replicated by many other trans rights protestors in multiple countries. Australia, New Zealand, UK, USA, and France. In France male trans protestor lit a flare and waved it very close to the bodies of lesbians who disagreed with that male trans protestor.

Now, could you clarify again the point you are trying to make please, between the comparison of a group or groups that have NO connect to feminists being held to be 'aligned' with those feminists, and a male protestor's behaviour who was there with the trans rights protest? Because your point doesn't seem to fit what you are trying to say. Or , can you provide the evidence that the male protestor is not a trans rights protestor?

Again. You seem to be trying to hold feminists responsible for group's behaviours who are NOT there as feminists at the rally, while declaring that a male protestor who WAS part of the protest movement shouldn't be held as anyway indicative of the group's established behaviour. Despite the huge mound of evidence that shows that this type of behaviour has become common place where groups are protesting women speaking.

Would you like me to post all the events where this type of violence and intimidation has occurred towards either the police protecting the women, or towards the women? I can. And others will join me I am sure.

You know, I think that it's fair enough to consider it a literary reference and not racist, but I do believe the id pol acolytes, were it a differernt literary reference describing people with non-white shades of skin, would absolutely consider it racist.

So, you tried to land some kind of clever 'gotcha' that actually is not a direct comparator?

You thought to use some kind of reverse 'gotcha' but the reality is you seem to miss some very huge glaring points.

This kind of behaviour from this male protestor was also shown by the news feeds to have been the same kind of behaviour that resulted in a group of the same group of protestors being sprayed with pepper spray by the Victorian Police on the day.

PLUS we now have footage of another group of them behaving in the same fashion following a man who was there live streaming with alleged reports of one of them pulling the man's daughter's hair.

In fact, did you even bother reading this thread at all?

And that was just this one event that we have picked up on so far. Not one feminist was behaving in anything similar in fashion or intent.

Very happy to post you all the historic event footage where protestors supporting trans rights behave in similar ways at women's rights rallies or where women are marching simply carrying placards about women's rights?

However, for you to declare that this is not representative seems to be rather an uninformed view. For you to then post a biased article about the neo - nazi group which had no connection to the feminists at that event in 2023 makes your article irrelevant in proving your point. That group was not one of the feminist groups at the event. That is a glaring inconsistency in your logic.

Please post your evidence that feminist groups who prioritise sex over gender when sex matters had anything to do with ‘Turning Point’? And can you post which feminist groups who campaign to prioritise sex over gender when sex matters protested at anti -drag protests last year?

It really seems like you draw your arguments from extreme trans activists on social media and never actually check those statements out. Surely you must realise by now that what is applauded as a great ‘gotcha’ by other extreme trans activists is all too often based on falsity in someway or another. Either is straight out false, or is a fallacy or a cognitive distortion, or is completely inconsistent or incoherent.

And by ‘extreme trans activist’ I mean those who demand that male people should be treated like they were female at all times, even when sex matters and should be prioritised over gender. I don’t mean trans people rightfully fighting against illegitimate discrimination while respecting the needs of other groups and discussing ways to find equitable solutions that don’t conflict with those other groups rights.

That'd be Jack Hudner who punched a granny and got away with it.

Apparently we are to believe that all the cream pies in faces,
the injured limbs due to extreme trans activists trying to damage women’s property,
spraying things in the face,
the following of women screaming,
the wobbling of male naked breasts,
the lighting of flares,
the riding of bikes towards to throw things,
the throwing of soup on, the punching,
and the hitting
and knocking down women,
the assaulting of children,
the screaming at infants,
the wrapping of women in banners and knocking them off their feet,
the hitting of horses,
the clanging of cymbals, drums, stereos,
horns,
electronically amplified horns,
the kettling,
the knocking over….
I can keep going…. but, We are to believe that all this past activity of extreme rights trans activists is not indicative of the actions of extreme rights trans activists…..

It is laughable really. The behaviour some people will overlook in their need to scold women who they don’t agree with on some things.

But here we are. We shouldn’t hold a now established behaviour pattern as representative of extreme trans rights activists. Because, what is it that women are doing that is causing some people to react with so much violence?

Speaking words and telling others of their experience.

So in no way connected to the women. Bloody Norah, mate, just stop.

Did you manage to find the clip where the rest of the movement stopped this guy and his behaviour? I've been ill, so I haven't followed this as closely as I usually would.

Do you really need us to document all the disgusting behaviour of this group, going back years and years, at every point that women wanted to meet and have been stopped, blocked, protested, banned, cancelled, threatened, their families targeted, the families of the venues threatened and targeted, all to stop them talking and from being heard? The same tactics, used over and over again, across the globe, all the countries, al the cities, all the same behaviour from the same anti-women group?

This isn't one guy with a cymbal, it is the orchestration of a male rights movement intent on destroying the rights of women to their words and freedoms, and the rights of kids to grow up.

It is kinda why we talk about it and document it on here.

While it wasn’t a Let Women Speak event, maybe it is time to remind ourselves to REPENT MOTHERFUCKER!!!

Yeah. I think we can say this male protestor is not an isolated case.

https://www.reddit.com/r/redscarepod/comments/qcjtuh/womanshakes_tambourine_while_yelling_repent/

Hard to find a clip with repent motherfucker on but here we go.

His attempt at deflecting criticism away from his unhinged “cymbal repeatedly whacked under horse’s nose” behaviour to “poor me, someone once threw some shit at me” is very blatant. He knows full well that the video doesn’t show someone claiming to be a lawyer in a very good light.

That exchange conveys how terrifying the whole TRA protest must feel to those on the receiving end. Absolutely male. Male aggression and male intimidation with the underlying threat of male violence.

And that was a big burly bloke being involved in the altercation. What would a woman feel? As a smaller female I’d feel so intimidated by those screaming, shouting TRA men.

Exactly what they want you to feel.

And the chasing with cameras, my god when did an iPhone or camera become such an aggressive instrument of intimidation? It looks truly medieval.

I was once in the line with other women holding hands to form a barrier to the group of shouting protestors. Even with the police spaced between us it was frightening and intimidating. One woman beside me was so scared she was trembling.

And the horns, the amplified music, drums, it is deafening.

And why are they doing it? Because women are there speaking words that they won’t listen to and they refuse to hear.

A bit more information about the incident involving the Auditing Australia man and his daughter. I know nothing about any of the people involved so can't vouch for the veracity of any of this, but I'm inclined to believe it, having seen that clip of this one man being aggressively harassed (to put it at its mildest) by a group of several activists.

Bloody hell @Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g

The result of this violence that we're seeing more and more of is that people are waking up to what's really going on with the TRAs and are actively turning against transpeople. They may not voice it publicly for fear of retribution, but the days of people living quietly as another gender (whatever that means to them) are long gone.

Ooh I'd forgotten about that batshit moment!