The TRA banging thr symbol in the horses face

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How can anyone watch this and yet still side with trans rights?
Do people think this behaviour is justified, because GC women wanting to protect their rights are evil incarnate?

Why is this behaviour not peaking the world?

And why do so many otherwise sane individuals think its OK to refer to a rapist as she and house him in a women's prison?

I've just had enough of it all.

Thanks Gaspode. That is concerning even if just partially true.

Thanks @Fixerupper77 for posting the news article that pointed out this attack on the man who was not connected to feminists in any way, yet still was attacked by extreme trans activists. Or are you saying they were not trans activists? Either way, thanks for posting your link! It has been enlightening to see just how consistent the behaviour that male protestor smashing at a cymbal in front of the police horse was to the others there on the day.

I believe the two women that were reported to be arrested when the police had to resort to pepper spraying a group of protestors were male and extreme trans activists too.

Great job posting this for us. Thanks.

I applaud you for being there @Helleofabore always throughout history men have used their physical strength to intimidate, silence and control women. Women pay a big price to keep their voices heard and thank god many refuse to be silenced. I’d be very scared to attend one of those rallies for several different reasons.

doc the heroes there were the stewards. They stood in front of the bulk of the crowd that day. Ovaries of steel those women!

The point is, of course, why do all these rallies require police presence at all? Posters who seem to have fuck all ability to critically think this through seem to forget what has now become standard. No women can now meet without being protested, without attempts at being cancelled or blocked entry.

Some people fucking think these protestors smashing cymbals in front of horses is somehow unusual behaviour. We know it is not unusual at all. It is fucking laughable what some people will overlook to attempt to portray women as irrational or prejudiced.

But once readers see the pattern for themselves, they can’t unsee it.

Injured a man. Refused to let an ambulance through to him. Surrounded by police who stood there and let it all happen.

Fixerupper77 · Yesterday 22:14

Why do you think they are attracted to the events? Is it because they know there’s normally counter protest and its an opportunity to cause trouble?

I'd say that they do go, looking for trouble with Antifa and Trans Zealots. That, however, does not make it the responsibility of the women speaking. It also doesn't mean that the women speaking are associated with Nazi groups, any more than it would mean that the women speaking are associated with the Trans Zealot groups.

It's facile to make that suggestion.

Yet we are told time and again that transwomen are delicate, vulnerable little things and that women are the violent ones.

Are the violent brutes not really trans, or are the TRAs lying? It's sure tricky to work out.

The point is, of course, why do all these rallies require police presence at all?

Because some of the TRA protestors are just there for the fight. There's a big over-lap with the sort of people who go hunt-sabbing and think it's OK to scream obscenities at small children, attack hounds, firebomb vehicles and intimidate hunt staff. You've only got to look at them with their masks, combat clothing and weapons to see the same people popping up.

They'd say their actions are justified for "the cause" but they aren't. They just want a fight. Maybe they genuinely believe that there's a cause (and I think some are genuinely looking for a cause to be angry about) but for many of them I even doubt that too.

Then you've got the kids who genuinely believe that gender critical people are going to kill them. I am absolutely baffled at where this comes from but they believe all the shite about suicide rates, erasure and Nazism, as if people who want to restrict puberty blockers are actually plotting a new Final Solution. They're acting out of fear, misplaced as it is.

Either way, they see gender critical people as "other". We're not worthy of human rights or safety or fairness because we're monsters. Unfortunately, it's not that uncommon, I've been at the receiving end of it. Thankfully not physical violence but bullying where my "wrong views" meant that I was ostracised and accused of all sorts, while absolutely none of them cared what the effect of all that on me might have been. I was deemed to deserve everything I got.

Remarkable how that post got deleted cauli. There are obviously many eyes on this board monitoring posts lately.

I thought it was an apt come back to a weak arsed attempt to deflect from some well established behaviour by extreme trans activists while seeming to backhandedly attempt to just as weakly consolidate feminists as being aligned with 'far right' political entities.

It also doesn't mean that the women speaking are associated with Nazi groups, any more than it would mean that the women speaking are associated with the Trans Zealot groups.

For that matter, if we’re attributing guilt by association, why not associate the TRAs with the far right neo nazis? They’re both at the same event protesting. Both being intimidating and thuggish. Both attempting to silence another group with threats of violence. Seems these two groups have more in common than the group of women trying to speak peacefully.

But no doubt such a suggestion would be passionately denied. Fine. If it’s just different groups together at the same event with different agendas, then we can say the same about the women speaking. They have nothing to do with either far right protestors or TRAs activists.

We did do that exercise actually back last year when discussing the Melbourne event. The supporters of the trans rights activists who were jeering about far right associates couldn't quite comprehend it when used back at them...

I don't understand why I was deleted tbh!

It gets tiring being asked to account for the far right when they've no more in common with GC feminism than they have with trans ideology.

https://deadwildroses.com/2019/10/07/handy-venn-diagrams-the-radical-feminist-position-on-gender/

I illustrated that using the analogy of paedophiles creating the MAP (minor attracted person) pride flag. I specifically said "designed their own flag". My entire point hinges on the fact that a nefarious group can take advantage of another group to further their own aims.

Eg MAPs taking advantage of pride
Eg the far right taking advantage of feminism

If I'd been insinuating that MAPs were affiliated with pride that would have undermined my entire point!

I'd love @mnhq to explain why I was deleted (I received no email)

Or even better, the reporting person to explain which part of my post upset them to the extent it deserved to be removed from the internet?

Those trying to clumsily make points about far right alignment don’t like to be reminded of the constant examples of people with backgrounds of such abuse being in their own movement. Not just a false ‘alignment’ but actually as spokespeople, and governors, and ambassadors and so on.

It is way it is only ever people who have little knowledge about what is happening try this ‘Whataboutery’. Because in doing so everyone reading learns a whole lot more about the very people that we are expected to believe are the most vulnerable and most marginalised. Finding out the depth of evidence that proves this as a lie has to be a shock.

Finding out that the male banging a cymbal under the horse’s nose is most definitely a general indicator of male extreme trans rights protestor behaviour must be inconvenient to say the least. It surely is.