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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

The TRA banging thr symbol in the horses face

238 replies

Eminybob · 24/03/2024 11:42

How can anyone watch this and yet still side with trans rights?
Do people think this behaviour is justified, because GC women wanting to protect their rights are evil incarnate?

Why is this behaviour not peaking the world?

And why do so many otherwise sane individuals think its OK to refer to a rapist as she and house him in a women's prison?

I've just had enough of it all.

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WickedSerious · 24/03/2024 18:39

Helleofabore · 24/03/2024 18:36

the Laughing Auditor?

The one were a group of lesbians were (shock horror) meeting without TRA's permission?

Helleofabore · 24/03/2024 18:41

Just listening Gaspode, this is the full video clip. At the end it is the clip that I expect that was in the HeraldSun article.

So, this guy is an auditor. He also asked the police over and over if they were going to allow the group to keep harassing him.

He mentions Emma sometimes in the video as well.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 24/03/2024 18:41

Yes, imagine! Not a single male person in attendance.

Helleofabore · 24/03/2024 18:42

WickedSerious · 24/03/2024 18:39

The one were a group of lesbians were (shock horror) meeting without TRA's permission?

yes.

And then he went to Hyde Park I think.

Froodwithatowel · 24/03/2024 18:44

Fixerupper77 · 24/03/2024 18:24

i didn’t know that! That’s interesting.

well, I absolutely don’t care about being rude to white conservative men so that’s ok.

So you're prejudiced and discriminatory to people based on their age and skin colour.

Mhm.

That's about as righteous as trying to frighten animals and telling people to kill themselves, choosing a particular group to behave appallingly towards does not make the behaviour ok. Even if you pick really fashionable groups to pick on where you get lots of applause from people hard of thinking.

Fixerupper77 · 24/03/2024 18:47

Froodwithatowel · 24/03/2024 18:44

So you're prejudiced and discriminatory to people based on their age and skin colour.

Mhm.

That's about as righteous as trying to frighten animals and telling people to kill themselves, choosing a particular group to behave appallingly towards does not make the behaviour ok. Even if you pick really fashionable groups to pick on where you get lots of applause from people hard of thinking.

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I’m sure they will recover.

Froodwithatowel · 24/03/2024 18:49

I'm sure slave traders said exact the same thing.

They just chose a different skin tone to dehumanise other humans about.

I despair, I really do.

quantumbutterfly · 24/03/2024 18:50

Snowypeaks · 24/03/2024 18:23

No it's not. It's from Charles Dickens' time and it refers to an elderly/late middle-aged man with inflexible, conservative or populist opinions. The red face, likened to gammon, is from his diet which includes lots of meat.

It's rude, but it's not racist.

Yes I'm sure all those using it are great readers of Dickens.Hmm

Helleofabore · 24/03/2024 18:54

I have looked at the end of the footage. I am not sure that he has done anything but turn and leave. I cannot see where Shane 'antagonised' the trans protestors except to be there and to live stream the event as an 'auditor'. He even says, I am going to get going at 1:21 ish.

At 1.25 the male protestors come and crowd him and he leaves. They demand he stops filming. I don't believe that they are legally allowed to prevent him from filming.

At 1.26 he is asking if the police are going to stop the the harassment and the following. They did nothing.

At 1.27 he clearly tells Emma to go inside.

I would be very interested to see if this man 'attacked' or was he responding to having his phone and his tripod knocked out of his hand.

Helleofabore · 24/03/2024 18:54

Either way, grabbing a person by the throat is not acceptable behaviour either.

Snowypeaks · 24/03/2024 18:56

quantumbutterfly · 24/03/2024 18:50

Yes I'm sure all those using it are great readers of Dickens.Hmm

They probably aren't, but that is nevertheless the origin of the term.

Helleofabore · 24/03/2024 18:56

Thanks Gaspode for the link. I wonder if the HeraldSun will clarify what happened.

Brefugee · 24/03/2024 18:57

Also the things that American chap was shouting, in full view of the police. And the police? absolute fuckers did nothing at all. Nothing.

Gettingmadderallthetime · 24/03/2024 18:57

@Fixerupper77 can't view that footage but can view this - is it the same event? Was the guy in sun glasses trying to keep control of some sort of black pole (mike boom/camera equipment?) someone you were thinking was anti-trans? Masked attendees are trying to take it from him by force and he is clearly not wanting to let go. I saw this as a fight over property and not anti-trans directed. (This is the second part of the segment).

https://www.9news.com.au/national/melbourne-gender-protest-activists-clash-with-police/bfde64b9-3263-4003-b4cc-f0a31e361aeb

Anti-trans demonstrators clash with police in Melbourne

Police officers used capsicum spray when some activists tried to break through a police line and two protes...

https://www.9news.com.au/national/melbourne-gender-protest-activists-clash-with-police/bfde64b9-3263-4003-b4cc-f0a31e361aeb

quantumbutterfly · 24/03/2024 18:57

Snowypeaks · 24/03/2024 18:56

They probably aren't, but that is nevertheless the origin of the term.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gammon_(insult)

Gammon (insult) - Wikipedia

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gammon_(insult)

Helleofabore · 24/03/2024 19:01

Brefugee · 24/03/2024 18:57

Also the things that American chap was shouting, in full view of the police. And the police? absolute fuckers did nothing at all. Nothing.

Apparently though, it is both sides.

Except that it seems that the case is.... that it is someone unrelated to the women speaking that is being declared as 'on the women's side'. So some posters can make the false claim.

I would recommend any poster laying claim to 'both sides are as bad as the other' should actually do more research before making such a claim. Because just because the Australian media has posted something without investigating it, doesn't make it true. As we have seen from the event last year....

But apparently.... both sides....

Gettingmadderallthetime · 24/03/2024 19:01

I have been thinking about the police horses who were leary about crossing the rainbow in the road. (One of the small clips posted earlier). Don't know much about horses but know that sheep who have been bucket fed will race towards a bucket even years later in the hope its got treats in it. Would horses subjected to loud noises and jostling in demonstrations which have rainbow flags later associate the rainbow image with danger? (If so not at all blaming them).

Helleofabore · 24/03/2024 19:03

Gettingmadderallthetime · 24/03/2024 18:57

@Fixerupper77 can't view that footage but can view this - is it the same event? Was the guy in sun glasses trying to keep control of some sort of black pole (mike boom/camera equipment?) someone you were thinking was anti-trans? Masked attendees are trying to take it from him by force and he is clearly not wanting to let go. I saw this as a fight over property and not anti-trans directed. (This is the second part of the segment).

https://www.9news.com.au/national/melbourne-gender-protest-activists-clash-with-police/bfde64b9-3263-4003-b4cc-f0a31e361aeb

Gaspode has posted the full clip. And I have just posted the times of the incident.

I cannot see where Shane 'antagonised' the trans protestors except to be there and to live stream the event as an 'auditor'. He even says, I am going to get going at 1:21 ish.

At 1.25 the male protestors come and crowd him and he leaves. They demand he stops filming. I don't believe that they are legally allowed to prevent him from filming.

At 1.26 he is asking if the police are going to stop the the harassment and the following. They did nothing.

At 1.27 he clearly tells Emma to go inside.

Snowypeaks · 24/03/2024 19:03

Don't rely on Wikipedia as a source for anything.

quantumbutterfly · 24/03/2024 19:04

Gettingmadderallthetime · 24/03/2024 19:01

I have been thinking about the police horses who were leary about crossing the rainbow in the road. (One of the small clips posted earlier). Don't know much about horses but know that sheep who have been bucket fed will race towards a bucket even years later in the hope its got treats in it. Would horses subjected to loud noises and jostling in demonstrations which have rainbow flags later associate the rainbow image with danger? (If so not at all blaming them).

Do horses see in colour?

quantumbutterfly · 24/03/2024 19:05

Snowypeaks · 24/03/2024 19:03

Don't rely on Wikipedia as a source for anything.

😂

NecessaryScene · 24/03/2024 19:05

Except that it seems that the case is.... that it is someone unrelated to the women speaking that is being declared as 'on the women's side'. So some posters can make the false claim.

He was there filming the event, and wasn't one of the TRAs, and in their mind that's enough to make him "on the women's side". These mobs regard anyone documenting their behaviour as their enemy, and are prone to attack them.

Helleofabore · 24/03/2024 19:07

NecessaryScene · 24/03/2024 19:05

Except that it seems that the case is.... that it is someone unrelated to the women speaking that is being declared as 'on the women's side'. So some posters can make the false claim.

He was there filming the event, and wasn't one of the TRAs, and in their mind that's enough to make him "on the women's side". These mobs regard anyone documenting their behaviour as their enemy, and are prone to attack them.

Yes, we have seen this with the UK versions of the auditors.

I think it was Rukshan last year who was documenting it and got abused by trans activists for filming.

dapsnotplimsolls · 24/03/2024 19:07

I think the stand he's fighting them off with is his own equipment.

Waitwhat23 · 24/03/2024 19:07

Interestingly, yes

'The Met said: “A misconception is that horses only see in black and white. They may not see colour the way we do, but they are not ‘colour blind’.

“Therefore, the differing shades and patterns of a colourful crossing could suggest an obstacle in the road, causing a horse to shy from something that we, as humans do not see.

“This eliminates risk to public, motorists or distress to our horses.”'

From www.standard.co.uk/news/london/met-police-horses-spooked-special-training-lgbt-rainbow-colourful-crossings-project-b991872.html