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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

The TRA banging thr symbol in the horses face

238 replies

Eminybob · 24/03/2024 11:42

How can anyone watch this and yet still side with trans rights?
Do people think this behaviour is justified, because GC women wanting to protect their rights are evil incarnate?

Why is this behaviour not peaking the world?

And why do so many otherwise sane individuals think its OK to refer to a rapist as she and house him in a women's prison?

I've just had enough of it all.

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Helleofabore · 24/03/2024 17:41

Fixerupper77 · 24/03/2024 16:16

In footage captured by the Herald Sun, horrified diners had front row seats to a heated brawl outside The Cricketer's Bar at the Hotel Windsor between a women's right's supporter, dressed in all black and wearing sunglasses, and a group of protesters.
The man, who had allegedly been antagonising transgender supporters, is seen shoving the activists before grabbing one by the throat and slamming them against the wall.

And in the footage I have seen, the man was defending his daughter who he had told to run through the doors. The 'supports' seemed to be telling him and his daughter to kill themselves or something. Perhaps you can post the actual link to the man rather than what you have posted, let's have a look.

I would suggest there might be more to what you have just said, it may not be quite as you have stated.

Either way, it was not one of the women speakers and it was not one of the women who was listening. Do you have verified footage that we can all access without any subscriptions that the male person who was violent was at the rally?

EdithStourton · 24/03/2024 17:42

That horse was an absolute credit to whoever did the training.

NeighbourhoodWatchPotholeDivision · 24/03/2024 17:45

However I would be careful about smearing an entire group of people because of the actions of one person, especially when GC views are being co-opted by the far right and gammon media.

I'm looking for the trans activists who are willing to condemn the animal cruelty. Where are they?

WickedSerious · 24/03/2024 17:47

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 24/03/2024 13:51

Has anyone at a women's rights gathering ever had to cover their face/wear masks to hide their identity? All the TRA's seem to do this 🤔

It's weird isn't it?

Why don't all these folk on the right side of history want to be recognised ?

Fixerupper77 · 24/03/2024 17:51

NeighbourhoodWatchPotholeDivision · 24/03/2024 17:45

However I would be careful about smearing an entire group of people because of the actions of one person, especially when GC views are being co-opted by the far right and gammon media.

I'm looking for the trans activists who are willing to condemn the animal cruelty. Where are they?

Same way I guess people are looking for the GC folks to condemn man at the rally yesterday wearing a top that said “Right Wing Death Squad” on it?

NeighbourhoodWatchPotholeDivision · 24/03/2024 17:51

Why on earth were none of that protesters' mates intervening?

If I ever took leave of every moral principle I have and proceded to harass a horse, I can't name a single person in my life who wouldn't intervene to drag me away from the poor creature.

What kind of social circle have they developed? Oh wait, I've seen the rape and murder threats trans activists tweet at JK. There is a pattern here...

NeighbourhoodWatchPotholeDivision · 24/03/2024 17:54

Fixerupper77 · 24/03/2024 17:51

Same way I guess people are looking for the GC folks to condemn man at the rally yesterday wearing a top that said “Right Wing Death Squad” on it?

Sounds like a weird top. No idea what it means, but I condemn it.

Now what about the deliberate sustained animal cruelty, which is actually much worse than a stupid t-shirt? Any thoughts?

Fixerupper77 · 24/03/2024 17:55

NeighbourhoodWatchPotholeDivision · 24/03/2024 17:54

Sounds like a weird top. No idea what it means, but I condemn it.

Now what about the deliberate sustained animal cruelty, which is actually much worse than a stupid t-shirt? Any thoughts?

Yeah, it’s disgraceful? The guy is clearly a huge fucking whopper.

Brefugee · 24/03/2024 18:02

Fixerupper77 · 24/03/2024 16:16

In footage captured by the Herald Sun, horrified diners had front row seats to a heated brawl outside The Cricketer's Bar at the Hotel Windsor between a women's right's supporter, dressed in all black and wearing sunglasses, and a group of protesters.
The man, who had allegedly been antagonising transgender supporters, is seen shoving the activists before grabbing one by the throat and slamming them against the wall.

is that supposed to be an equivalent example of women protesting TRAs trying to speak?

Fail. 1/10 for effort. That was a man. Fighting other men.

Helleofabore · 24/03/2024 18:04

Fixerupper77 · 24/03/2024 16:16

In footage captured by the Herald Sun, horrified diners had front row seats to a heated brawl outside The Cricketer's Bar at the Hotel Windsor between a women's right's supporter, dressed in all black and wearing sunglasses, and a group of protesters.
The man, who had allegedly been antagonising transgender supporters, is seen shoving the activists before grabbing one by the throat and slamming them against the wall.

Would you please clarify what your intention of posting this incident was, because the post you quoted has been deleted?

Do you mean this incident? Is this the one that you have posted in the quoted post?

https://x.com/96mitchclarke/status/1771360983023485132?s=20

This may be it from another angle. It seems to fit though. The person screaming 'fucking die', 'kill yourself' seems to be the same person in both and the phone was streaming and captured at the time. There are claims one of those male people following pulled the man's daughter's hair.

Should he have reacted this way, no. He should have referred it to the police immediately and used the footage. Has any footage been released that he had been antagonising transgender supporters?

https://x.com/AnthonyHadj/status/1771713747335184685?s=20

Has this man been identified as having any connection to the organisers of the women's rally? And if so, in what capacity? Just because he might believe that people cannot change sex, it doesn't mean he has any connected to the women's rally. Many other interested parties go to these events for their own purposes.

Would you please clarify what your intention of posting this incident was, because the post you quoted has been deleted?

https://x.com/96mitchclarke/status/1771360983023485132?s=20

Brefugee · 24/03/2024 18:05

If I ever took leave of every moral principle I have and proceded to harass a horse, I can't name a single person in my life who wouldn'tintervene to drag me away from the poor creature.

it wasn't about the horse. That idiot was trying to provoke the police to a reaction so they could all screech in unison "come and see the violence inherent in the system, help, help, I'm being repressed". The police, in "being bored" did exactly the right thing (edited to make the quoted part bold)

Waitwhat23 · 24/03/2024 18:07

Anyone else seeing a pattern here.....

Helleofabore · 24/03/2024 18:07

Fixerupper77 · 24/03/2024 17:51

Same way I guess people are looking for the GC folks to condemn man at the rally yesterday wearing a top that said “Right Wing Death Squad” on it?

I condemn him. Who was he and what was he doing there?

NeighbourhoodWatchPotholeDivision · 24/03/2024 18:07

The police did the right thing. But every single trans activist near that guy did the wrong thing, because they should have dragged their mate away.

Helleofabore · 24/03/2024 18:11

Waitwhat23 · 24/03/2024 18:07

Anyone else seeing a pattern here.....

yes. The pattern is very clear.

Brefugee · 24/03/2024 18:14

the footage of the Trantifa attacking that guy, telling him to kill himself, saying they would kill him and calling him a nazi confuses me. What happened? Later tweets say he was with his 11 year old daughter, and she had her hair pulled. He was filming the TRA?

Snowypeaks · 24/03/2024 18:23

quantumbutterfly · 24/03/2024 16:56

Gammon is a racist term, were you aware?

Likening the pink skin of white people to pigs ...(For the hard of thinking).

No it's not. It's from Charles Dickens' time and it refers to an elderly/late middle-aged man with inflexible, conservative or populist opinions. The red face, likened to gammon, is from his diet which includes lots of meat.

It's rude, but it's not racist.

Fixerupper77 · 24/03/2024 18:24

Snowypeaks · 24/03/2024 18:23

No it's not. It's from Charles Dickens' time and it refers to an elderly/late middle-aged man with inflexible, conservative or populist opinions. The red face, likened to gammon, is from his diet which includes lots of meat.

It's rude, but it's not racist.

i didn’t know that! That’s interesting.

well, I absolutely don’t care about being rude to white conservative men so that’s ok.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 24/03/2024 18:26

From what I've seen, the big chap attacked at the Melbourne Let Women Speak event yesterday was called Shayne or Shane, and livestreams protests under the name Auditing Australia. If this is correct, he was there to document what was happening, not necessarily to identify with either side.

This extended footage is probably relevant. I haven't had time to look at it. https://www.youtube.com/live/e4Bv7M8cp7A?si=uH5Ett-O3Xh1Oqk6

Helleofabore · 24/03/2024 18:27

Brefugee · 24/03/2024 18:14

the footage of the Trantifa attacking that guy, telling him to kill himself, saying they would kill him and calling him a nazi confuses me. What happened? Later tweets say he was with his 11 year old daughter, and she had her hair pulled. He was filming the TRA?

Well, I am asking Fixerupper to explain the relevance of their post and maybe they can clarify if this is the one they meant.

Because it seems that this man was filming the violent and intimidating male protestors who was following him and his daughter. Of course, at this stage we don't know what led up to these clips.

however, it was posted for a reason, let's see what that reason was and let fixerupper tell us all if the is the man, and then they can tell us more about they posted it and what their intention was.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 24/03/2024 18:28

Fixerupper77 · 24/03/2024 18:24

i didn’t know that! That’s interesting.

well, I absolutely don’t care about being rude to white conservative men so that’s ok.

Well, aren't you edgy. I generally try to treat everybody with respect and hope for it to be reciprocated. White conservative men, if you mean socially conservative men, would include my beloved Dad who died last year, and who was a gem.

Helleofabore · 24/03/2024 18:32

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 24/03/2024 18:26

From what I've seen, the big chap attacked at the Melbourne Let Women Speak event yesterday was called Shayne or Shane, and livestreams protests under the name Auditing Australia. If this is correct, he was there to document what was happening, not necessarily to identify with either side.

This extended footage is probably relevant. I haven't had time to look at it. https://www.youtube.com/live/e4Bv7M8cp7A?si=uH5Ett-O3Xh1Oqk6

Edited

thanks Gaspode.

This is interesting because last time it was one of these type of YouTubers who posted the footage that discredited many of the claims last time that women were connected with the 'far right'.

As you say, often they are not there to support either side. They are there for the clicks. It could also be what the man who was reported in attacking the trans supporters was doing too. I am interested in seeing just who was doing what because it takes a lot of work to sort through these clips.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 24/03/2024 18:35

Shayne Wicker is his name.

I remember the chap who just happened to be passing an event in London a few months ago, or possibly longer - he started filming on the offchance and was astounded at the violence and aggression he was seeing from the people trying to stop the event happening. I can't remembe what it was or I'd search for it.

Helleofabore · 24/03/2024 18:36

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 24/03/2024 18:35

Shayne Wicker is his name.

I remember the chap who just happened to be passing an event in London a few months ago, or possibly longer - he started filming on the offchance and was astounded at the violence and aggression he was seeing from the people trying to stop the event happening. I can't remembe what it was or I'd search for it.

the Laughing Auditor?