Scarlet Blake - murder to officially recorded as a crime committed by a woman

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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/02/28/trans-cat-killer-scarlet-blake-crimes-will-recorded/

I know there are other Scarlet Blake threads but I thought this was significant enough to start a new thread.
According to The Telegraph the murder is to be recorded as a crime committed by a woman.

There's a Telegraph article this morning on how crimes are overwhelmingly skewed male except crimes of poverty and child care

Crimes are analysed and the stats can direct policy decisions. The more these stats get corrupted by people like Blake who commit very male crimes while claiming to be women, the more women will have to scrabble to prove what should be obvious. FatPrincess says it doesn't matter because it does not alter their day to day life. This is grotesquely shortsighted.

Prisoners are not allowed to participate in society for the time they are incarcerated. They can't vote for instance (I think Scotland is thinking of changing this). But see! Men who call themselves women and are imprisoned CAN change society, are in fact more powerful than many women, as their stats gradually change policy and skew people's attitudes.

"Look, I read in the paper that a women brutally tortured an animal and then murdered an innocent bloke!"

"Yes, I saw that. But statistically women are becoming more violent. Can't imagine why they complain about transwomen in their spaces, clearly women can be just as violent as men."

Yes

"Apply for a Gender Recognition Certificate if you want your affirmed gender (sometimes called an ‘acquired gender’) to be legally recognised in the UK.
Having a certificate means you can:

• update your birth or adoption certificate, if it was registered in the UK
• get married or form a civil partnership in your affirmed gender
• update your marriage or civil partnership certificate, if it was registered in the UK
• have your affirmed gender on your death certificate when you die"

https://www.gov.uk/apply-gender-recognition-certificate

(As an aside, note the captured language "affirmed' with the actual term from the GRA in brackets )

If you get a GRC, you get a new birth certificate.

As far as I know, the original is not destroyed nor altered.

I wonder if the Police or whoever will be asked to explain precisely how a woman criminal is now in a man’s jail. Properly explain. Because the factual data states the murderer is a woman, so why has another official body decided otherwise?
This absolute nonsense and absence of fact based language just can’t be explained away and needs to stop.
Also how would the Police record cat gender, as doesn’t the murderer id as a cat too. Is that also respected in police crime reports.
I feel angry at being lied to by these official bodies, the press, etc

Yes @Skyellaskerry this is exactly my thought. Do all female prisoners now need to live in fear that they could be transferred to the male estate? On what basis? Why has this woman been randomly put in with the men?!

Also, not our crimes, no thank you, and please fuck off.

The original birth record remains in existence and is kept by the Registrar General.

As I see it, for accurate records to be kept, everyone taken into custody would have to have their ID checked by producing a birth certificate, with that document being checked with the information with by the Registrar General. Under statutory provisions, not just guidelines.

Perhaps we need a self ID of "genus" I think would be the term for people who identify as cats or other creatures. Who are we to say that Blake is human if he self IDs as a cat. I think he would still need to go to a male prison though (as we would still know he is actually a human male).

I read Blake miaowed at the jury, so I'd say he has more proof of being a cat than he has of being a woman.

On the birth cert thing, the paper copies we have in our possession are just that: certified copies. The original is in the 'big book' as it were, at the Resgistry of Births, Marriages & Deaths (or whatever they're called these days) and that doesn't change. So the main source of information remains the same, GRC or no. Or that's what I have been told, at least.

I am getting to the point where I now believe that:

1. The GRA should be scrapped and all falsified birth certificates should be restored to the facts.
2. No one with any legal authority should ever report or register someone as being of the opposite sex in any circumstances.
3. Pretending to be a member of the opposite sex in such a way that could mislead others, should be recognised as dysfunctional, antisocial and a possible aggravating factor in any crime committed.

Seriously, enough of this nonsense!

People like this should be viewed as a person of their actual sex, with their disorder recognised, nothing else.

I’ve just written to my MP. She was very much toe the party line, TWAW are women back before the Tory party started on its (partial) volte-face, so it will be interesting to see what she has to say now.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/02/28/jk-rowling-has-exposed-the-ruling-class-cowardice/

Great opinion article in today's Daily Telegraph

I'm just boggling at the idea that universities must presumably now all need students to put in a line or two in every essay with mention of gender, that figures since 2010(?appx?) may need to be taken with caution due to statistical challenges arising from the addition of transpeople to the data. Or something better versed. Maybe only if this is highlighted across the board would people begin to see the issues?

I feel that a letter to my MP is forthcoming. Tory.

Have they not been told already to record crimes properly?

Signed

I'm really quite interested in this.

If the original entry remains on the register (which it should), is what is happening that they get a copy of the original certificate with an amended sex marker on it?

Is a record of an amendment registered?

When the person then dies is the death registered in the original sex or the amended sex?

Any why is any of this necessary anyway if we accept that sex and gender are 2 different things?

I agree with you. Kier Starmer must be an idiot. But saying what he did - about 99.9% of women of course not having penis(es)- that's comedy gold! Shame all the comedians are liberal wokes who won't touch on this subject.
I mean, I have a penis - it just isn't attached to my body.

I agree.

I would also add:

4 The data on medical records showing sex recorded at birth should be restored.

In your handbag?

Thank you for this post. There is a police SEEN network you might want to think about looking up and even joining. They have a Twitter account with joining instructions.

Thanks, I'll look into this.

There is a Gender Recognition Register. Who can access it I'm not sure - certainly not the general public. The entries are linked to the entries in the register of births but the links are "confidential".

The death is registered in amended sex

Thanks, so the record of death won't match any record of birth in the official main register, because the sex on the birth will be different from the record of death?

I think this is so problematic for all sorts of reasons.

The whole thing needs repealing. Sex and gender are not the same and this ability to change sex for official purposes is complete nonsense.

As far as I can see, no, it won't match.

And yes, it is a nonsensical shitshow

But they’re not in a male prison which I thought was the biggest issue for lots of you?

This, in a nutshell. ^^

The guy miaowed at the court, he is obviously beyond disordered.

The whole 'yes but what does it matter if we pat him on the head and pretend he's a woman to please him' thing -

well that means people are going around saying (very intentionally in the case of this fantastically pernicious anti-woman lobby) 'There is a woman in this man's prison'.

Which leads, obviously to, 'poor woman, she should be in a women's prison'.

It means the lobby gleefully pointing out that women are violent murderers and sex killers too, so they can't argue about safety or safe spaces or sex based violence. Playing this game is a way to enable a man to destroy your rights better and faster.

This is the gateway softening up to forcing men - including this very disturbed, violent killer - into women's spaces, and making women submit to there being nowhere they can have that is not controlled and dominated by men. Men who by definition of walking into that space, see men as superior to and more important than women, who see inclusion as 'whatever I want' and have no interest in the exclusion of women to give it to them, who think it's fine if men rape and harm women while using women's spaces and that's much much more humane than saying no to a man.

Ffs catch on. This man is a man. He will never be anything other than a man, it is not possible. I have - or had - some sympathy for those who need a complicated fiction around them to be able to cope with their lives, but the limits and boundaries to this are where that fiction requires participation by others. And the harms are now so stacked up that I am honestly starting to think it's a serious mistake to indulge even the very shallow ends of these personal LARP choices. It is not as if we are falling over people with TQ+ identities and politics who are showing good boundaries, respect for others, or awareness of how far to push things, with a great capacity for compromise.