Scarlet Blake - murder to officially recorded as a crime committed by a woman

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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/02/28/trans-cat-killer-scarlet-blake-crimes-will-recorded/

I know there are other Scarlet Blake threads but I thought this was significant enough to start a new thread.
According to The Telegraph the murder is to be recorded as a crime committed by a woman.

I think this is confirmation Blake does in fact have a GRC and that also explains the reporting issues.
What a mess. On the bright side, maybe this will be the push to update the GRA.

Has anyone told Milli Hill?

Why do you think this is confirmation of a GRC, Adam? It's hardly the first time it's happened with an offender without a GRC.

Apparently not, @AdamRyan

A PP says the suspect gives their gender on arrival at the station and is recorded and treated accordingly.

The police are just rolling back their instruction that people be searched by their gender not their sex. So women can be searched by transwomen and female officers be required to search transwomen. M

The police have been all about self ID. No GRC required.

It’s one of those courtesy things. Of course transwomen should be searched by female officers- it’s courteous and kind. Unless you are a female officer. Or a female being searched by a transwoman.

It's nothing to do with having a GRC.

A Thames Valley Police spokesperson told the paper,
“We are required to record the gender of individuals when they are brought into our custody.

“Blake identified as a female when in custody. As such, Blake is recorded as female on our crime recording system.”

The recording system goes by what the (alleged at the time of being taken into custody) offender says i.e. self ID

Because the reporting of Blake has been so out of kilter with other recent reports of transgender criminals (e.g. that scottish butcher guy) and the wording where it has been disclosed has been very careful and about specific things raised in the trial rather than about her gender overall.

If Blake has a GRC, the legal implications are different.

Yes, the police are well known for being lefties 🙄

"That Scottish butcher guy" - Andrew Miller / Amy George - asked to be addressed as male in court.

Again, self ID.

Anyway, none of us can know for definite Blakes GRC status.
All I can say is someone as awful as Blake would be exactly the type of person I'd expect to fully know the law regarding trans and throw it around to get their way

We know that Stonewall have been pushing self ID to countless organisations for years - and this is the result. The fact that the police rolled over to political lobby groups is in itself a scandal. As is number of civil servants in the MoJ, the CPS, the Home Office, the DfE and so on pushing self ID, funding trans lobby groups and effectively giving the green light to prisons, the police etc that self ID was a good idea.
All overseen by senior civil servants and ministers - none of who cared to abide by the Nolan principles of public life that insist on impartiality and not working on behalf of interest groups.
This is the result. Inaccurate data, still men in women's prisons and a society where safeguarding the vulnerable is made infinitely more difficult by all this.

An avoidable shambles.

If Blake has a GRC, the legal implications are different.

If Blake has a GRC then the implication is that the system needs making more rigorous not less. Including more (some?!) good counselling/psychiatric evaluation at the outset. And (if it's not abolished) then probably it should be made more like a revocable licence.
We don't owe this man any courtesy.

If after this, and other cases, any future government goes ahead with 'self ID' rather than making sure it's insidious de facto creep isn't sorted out then it shows their utter contempt for women and our rights.

None of us can know.

We just don't know.

So much not knowing.

What I've never really understood with the trans issue as a whole is why the powers that be needed to shoehorn them into either M or F categories? Surely, with sports, loos, prisons - everything - making an extra provision specifically for trans is the sensible solution? I mean I know, funding is a large part but you'd imagine this would be a vote winner for someone.

Well known for misogyny. And authoritarianism.

Not at all like the left these days…

Computer says no.
Coding of system needs an extra box for officers to tick: TRANS

The powerful trans lobby groups don't want this. Access to women in changing rooms, sports etc is required by them. Hence 3rd spaces being a non starter.

Long overdue that society tells them no.

@MrsOvertonsWindow I still think more people would vote for it than not - new shiny titles and facilities. Would be quite hard for them to argue they were being hard done by.

Yes exactly. I agree. I like the "license" idea.

https://twitter.com/matthew_barber/status/1763069649531379918

From Matthew Barber the Thames Valley Police PCC

I’d also be happy to be one of the initial five needed to go live, but not the petition creator as couldn’t handle giving media quotes right now

If every woman booked in as male no doubt things would change

How do you know that some of the 'women' who have become more violent aren't actually men?

Since men commit 90% of violent crime and over 98% of sexual crime, it would only take a small proportion of them identifying as female to double the incidence of 'female' crime.

Good.

Name changed for this.

I work for a police force, it grinds my gears that we have to record crimes in the preferred gender and not sex. So stats are skewed/inaccurate.

At my latest training they quickly glossed over the trans section and said custodies have to be searched by those who match how they identify. I personally won't be searching anyone who is biologically male and will be happy to kick up merry hell if anyone has a problem with that.

There's other instances of this being problematic in custody but I'll stop there.

Required to book them in under the gender they self identify.

Fab. All going swimmingly well then. We can’t possibly know.

Which is exactly the problem.