Would you vote Conservative if they said they will repeal the GRC?

[BlessedKali]

I'm wondering, even if you are a staunch lefty..... would revoking the GRC persuade you to vote conservatives?

I think that they were slow to understand what is happening, like the majority of people have been.

No I am not happy with much of what they have done on other policies, however I remain unconvinced that Labour would do any better.

I am worried not only about what will happen with women’s rights under Labour but also how obsessed they are with identity politics more generally which I think is divisive and dangerous, I am also concerned that they want to scrap the HoL which has been revealed to me to be place of common sense and depth and breadth of knowledge which can put the brakes on some of the worst policies put forward by the commons.

Much as I'd love this it's a no, I just couldn't.

Yes!

Government administrations last for five years, changes to the GRC will have much longer lasting and more fundamental effect. It is not as if any administration, of any colour is going to revolutionise our society or make that much difference to the general economic or social climate.

Yes I would.

If Labour made it clear that they would absolutely support women’s single-sex spaces, services and sports; protect vulnerable children and teenagers from experimental treatment, and ensure teaching the alphabet in school revolved around mutual respect and consideration, then they can 100% have my vote

I would not vote Tory no matter what. Never.

Actually, pretty much any party which offered that can have my vote!

I dont think any party would explicitly have repeal of the GRA in their manifesto.

What we need is more MP who understand their safeguarding responsibilities. Theres no point removing mens ability to get a GRC if the government still allows them female passports, and allows gender ideology in schools.

I would vote for someone who demonstrates that they understand this. Not only will they protect women and children, but they are more likely to have the skills needed for other policies.

We need fewer queer ideology sheep in government, and more serious politicians. More Rosie Duffields and Kemi Badenoch and far fewer Angela Eagles and gillian keegans.

No no never. They are jumping on a popular topic and hoping everyone gets riled up about that and forgets the fact that funding for autism was cut to ZERO. That the support for disabilities and vulnerable people has been barely existent and people have literally died due to their lack of care for their own citizens. But hey as long as they pretend to care about one hot topic who cares about the actual issues we face as a country? Anyone still voting Tory cannot possibly have a clear conscience. It's horrific quite honestly. Have some consideration for the people that cannot speak for themselves.

Of course. Women and children first. Always. But better Kellie- Jay Keen's Party of Women - POW!

Why?

namechangenanny's post just above yours explains why. Its not hyperbole, disabled people are dying due to benefit and other cuts;

''Research by the University of York published in BMJ Open found that the joint impact of cuts to healthcare, public health and social care since 2010 found that the cuts were linked to 57,550 more deaths than would have been expected between 2010 and 2014.''

https://www.disabilityrightsuk.org/news/2021/october/austerity-cuts-killed-tens-thousands-2010-onwards

Because I am a lifelong socialist and everything they stand for and have always stood for is antithetical to everything I believe in, that's why. I emigrated after the 2019 election, that's how strongly I felt.

Thank you. I appreciate much more your position as a political standpoint rather than pointing to specific issues often out of context. How do you feel gender ideology, which is an intensely individualist ideology, fits in with a socialist perspective? To me it feel like something that should have emerged from the right but perhaps the unified response expected to individuals declaring such an identity is more left wing?

I am very GC and am highly disappointed in the gender politics of the current left wing (especially in Ireland, where I live. I cannot join the Socialist Party now because of this). I am politically homeless in both the UK and Ireland right now to be honest.

I don't see gender as a left-right issue, although people try to shoehorn it into that dichotomy.

Tbf it is usually from the left that there is no distinction, for a reason. Left and GC don’t fit comfortably in politics and the media

It seems pretty clear progressive parties are more aligned to gender ideology - we see it in Scotland and in many countries

Also the media is even more split with centre left promoting TRA beliefs or minimising women’s rights

Not to say you or anyone else can’t be socialist and GC, but generally media and politics are aligned either way

Granted it’s taking a while for the tanker to turn in the U.K., it’s not going to be fast with captured institutions. WHO knows what will happen if there’s a switch at next GE, we may slide back to Ireland and other country level of gender ideology

If it was a manifesto promise then yes 100%

They could and should do it before the election.

No way. It’s the only policy of theirs I agree with. I couldn’t vote for a corrupt party.

Honestly, I just don't get this.

Identity politics as a whole reminds me so much of Maoism.

Sometimes it seems like it's just, bad idea = right wing in people's minds?

I know people like to think of the left as being fundamentally about "helping people". But it's not, really, many economic and social ideologies have the idea that they will create a good society for all. If you look at any of the more authoritarian leftist governments historically, it seems pretty clear that it's a lot more complicated than "helping people". Mao sacrificed at least 40 million of his own citizens making the good society and helping people.

Sacrificing the comfort of women or the health of some confused kids to create a Good Society doesn't seem so alien from that kind of thinking to me.

This, absolutely. Floating voter here who voted left over and over in the 90s and the 00s and I would love to be able to vote Labour again one day. This time, if Labour do get in it will only be because they are promising all the same stuff as the Tories on the economy, migration etc. They won't get in if they don't. So the only difference is whether women's rights get hammered or not. That's your choice folks.

Yes I would, I don’t like it but it would trump everything else

Look just vote Tory if you want to OP.
Fine. But don’t do it only because you think they are progressive on women’s rights. And definitely don’t do it only because you think the Tories might repeal the GRA. Hell will freeze over first.

The Tories have had 13 years in government to repeal the GRA. Yet the opposite has happened, this whole shit show has been exclusively on their Tory watch.

Maybe they do know what a woman is (EVERYONE in the world knows what a woman is- unless they are lying about it, dogs and babies know what a woman is, FFS) but the Tories really really don’t care about this sustained assault on women’s and girl’s rights. Otherwise they would have used their Parliamentary majority to do something about it long years before now. The Tories have been perfectly placed to repeal the GRA for the past FIVE Prime Ministers if they had wanted to.