Prof Jo Phoenix vs The OU - Employment Tribunal Thread 6

[ickky]

Started on 2nd October at Watford Employment Tribunal (Radius House, 51 Clarendon Rd, Watford WD17 1HP 01923 281750)

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URGENT CURRENT CASE - Public Access Request - J Phoenix - The Open University - 3322700/2021

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Abbreviations

JP - Jo Phoenix, Claimant (C)
OU - The Open University, Respondent (R)
J - Regional Employment Judge Young
P - Panel or panel member
BC - Ben Cooper KC, Counsel for C
JM - Jane Mulcahy KC, Counsel for R
OU Departments & Networks:
HWSRA - Health & Wellbeing Strategic Research Area
FASS - Faculty of Arts and Social Sciences
SPC - Dept of Social Policy & Criminology
KMi - Knowledge Media Institute
GCRN - Gender Critical Research Network

OU witnesses

PB - Dr Paraskevi Boukli, Former Senior Lecturer Criminology, Deputy Head SPC 2021-22
IF - Prof Ian Fribbance Dean of FASS
MW - Prof Marcia Wilson, Dean EDI, 2020-23
CM - Caragh Molloy, Group People Director 2019-23
LD - Dr Leigh Downes, Senior Lecturer in Criminology (in SPC), Academic Lead for EDI FASS 2019-21
PK - Peter Keogh, Professor Health & Society, Member RSSH
CW - Dr Christopher Williams, Senior Lecturer History
KS - Kevin Shakesheff. PVC for Research and Innovation
DD - Dr Deborah Drake, Senior Lecturer Criminology, Head of SPC 2018-21
CT - Catherine Tomlinson, Senior Student Advisor
LW - Louise Westmarland, Prof of Criminology, Co-Deputy Head SPC, 2018-21, Current Head SPC
JD - John Domingue, Prof of Computing Science, Director KMi, 2015-22
SD - Shaun Daley, Head OU’s Resourcing Hub. Head Strategic Resources, Co-Chair OU’s LGBT+ Staff Network
HBC - Helen Bowes-Catton, Lecturer Social Research Methods
NS - Nicola Snarey, Assoc Lecturer Eng Language
NatS - Natalie Starkey, Outreach & Public Engagement Officer Sch Physical Sciences, 2019-22
CT - Cath Tomlinson, Senior Student Advisor
SJ - Samantha Jacobson, Employee Relations Case Manager
RH - Richard Holliman, Prof Engaged Research, Head School Environment, Earth & Ecosystem Sciences, 2019-22. Member of Investigation Panel investigating the C’s grievance

Witness for JP:

SE - Sarah Earle, Professor Modern History Uni of Oxford, Founding member GCRN

Tribunal Tweets - twitter.com/tribunaltweets

TT coverage so far - https://tribunaltweets.substack.com/p/professor-jo-phoenix-v-the-open-university

Prof Jo Phoenix Witness Statement (scroll to bottom of page and download)

jophoenix.substack.com/p/phoenix-v-open-university?sd=pf

Thread 1 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4905118-jo-phoenix-vs-the-ou-employment-tribunal-2nd-october-whispers-ben-cooper?page=1

Thread 2 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4913946-prof-jo-phoenix-vs-the-ou-employment-tribunal-thread-2?page=1

Thread 3 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4917480-prof-jo-phoenix-vs-the-ou-employment-tribunal-thread-3

Thread 4 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4918479-prof-jo-phoenix-vs-the-ou-employment-tribunal-thread-4

Thread 5 https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4919223-prof-jo-phoenix-vs-the-ou-employment-tribunal-thread-5

LargeSquareRock and Whatwait 😂😂😂

Waitwhat23, that would have been amazing entrance music.

I’ve finally caught up! Was trying to read TT, then come here for the comments on each section but in the end just raced to the end on here.

As I wasn’t able to watch live due to work (and seems unlikely I’d have even got in) I can’t tell you how much I appreciate all your comments on this. Your descriptions are so vivid, I feel like I am there!

Big big hugs to you Jo if you ever read this. I can’t believe what a shower of shit your colleagues put you through.
Off to add some more to your garden.

Please all log in now as Justin doesn't seem to let anyone in unless it's during a break. I hope Debra is back today.

Interesting analogy with low-grade Christian Missionaries. May I suggest that idea can be extended to the Arab Islamic invasions of Northern Africa and the Ottoman Empire.
So as not to derail this thread perhaps someone will start a specific discussion thread about "How did we get here?"

Thanks for the prompt, I have a day off today so am currently WFTCHTJ

@ickky You are beyond genius this morning!

How many threads did Allison and Maya's tribunals generate, ickky?

Can you remember off the top of your head?

@LarkLane I saw it on Twitter a while ago and thought it genius. 😁

@Ameanstreakamilewide I think Allison's went up to about 10 in the end?

@Ameanstreakamilewide Can't remember Maya's but Allison's was about 16 -17 ish.

Thank you, @ickky and @SidewaysOtter .

Can you think how many threads would have been necessary if more of us had been able to gain access to this example of Open Justice?

@pronounsbundlebundle I hope you are suitably lem sipped this morning, how are you?
@ickky with gems like that I might be persuaded to use Twitter ha ha!

Just checked, it was 19 for Allison

👍🏻

I wonder if Darth Vader will say " Jason I'm your father?"

<use of poetic licence or whatever>

Darth Vader will say " Jason I'm your father?"
"But let me be your Mother"

Maya the Forstater be with you.

Briliant!

😂

I was extremely tempted to have it as my wedding entrance song when I got married.. @Waitwhat23

LOL!

@DavidChecker 😂

Just checked, it was 19 for Allison

IIRC, Allison's hearing lasted 20 days!

So nearly a thread a day. Impressive.

“Jason, I’m your father. But I’ve transitioned so I’d prefer you to call me Mummy.”

<SNORT>

😂😂😂

WFTCHTJ here too. Logged in a full 15 minutes before the start.

Money. Sex. Power. Usually these or some of them are at the base.

In the case of gender ideology and its practical ramifications, probably all three.