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Prof Jo Phoenix vs The OU - Employment Tribunal Thread 6

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ickky · 16/10/2023 16:00

Started on 2nd October at Watford Employment Tribunal (Radius House, 51 Clarendon Rd, Watford WD17 1HP 01923 281750)

You may attend in person or remote viewing has been quite limited but you can request log in details from

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URGENT CURRENT CASE - Public Access Request - J Phoenix - The Open University - 3322700/2021

Ask for access link and pin and please give your name and address in the email as they check when you connect to the tribunal.

The clerk will ask you (in a private remote room) to put your camera on to verify, this involves looking at you, but no ID is needed. You may turn off your camera after this pointless and unnecessary process.

Abbreviations

JP - Jo Phoenix, Claimant (C)
OU - The Open University, Respondent (R)
J - Regional Employment Judge Young
P - Panel or panel member
BC - Ben Cooper KC, Counsel for C
JM - Jane Mulcahy KC, Counsel for R
OU Departments & Networks:
HWSRA - Health & Wellbeing Strategic Research Area
FASS - Faculty of Arts and Social Sciences
SPC - Dept of Social Policy & Criminology
KMi - Knowledge Media Institute
GCRN - Gender Critical Research Network

OU witnesses

PB - Dr Paraskevi Boukli, Former Senior Lecturer Criminology, Deputy Head SPC 2021-22
IF - Prof Ian Fribbance Dean of FASS
MW - Prof Marcia Wilson, Dean EDI, 2020-23
CM - Caragh Molloy, Group People Director 2019-23
LD - Dr Leigh Downes, Senior Lecturer in Criminology (in SPC), Academic Lead for EDI FASS 2019-21
PK - Peter Keogh, Professor Health & Society, Member RSSH
CW - Dr Christopher Williams, Senior Lecturer History
KS - Kevin Shakesheff. PVC for Research and Innovation
DD - Dr Deborah Drake, Senior Lecturer Criminology, Head of SPC 2018-21
CT - Catherine Tomlinson, Senior Student Advisor
LW - Louise Westmarland, Prof of Criminology, Co-Deputy Head SPC, 2018-21, Current Head SPC
JD - John Domingue, Prof of Computing Science, Director KMi, 2015-22
SD - Shaun Daley, Head OU’s Resourcing Hub. Head Strategic Resources, Co-Chair OU’s LGBT+ Staff Network
HBC - Helen Bowes-Catton, Lecturer Social Research Methods
NS - Nicola Snarey, Assoc Lecturer Eng Language
NatS - Natalie Starkey, Outreach & Public Engagement Officer Sch Physical Sciences, 2019-22
CT - Cath Tomlinson, Senior Student Advisor
SJ - Samantha Jacobson, Employee Relations Case Manager
RH - Richard Holliman, Prof Engaged Research, Head School Environment, Earth & Ecosystem Sciences, 2019-22. Member of Investigation Panel investigating the C’s grievance

Witness for JP:

SE - Sarah Earle, Professor Modern History Uni of Oxford, Founding member GCRN

Tribunal Tweets - twitter.com/tribunaltweets

TT coverage so far - https://tribunaltweets.substack.com/p/professor-jo-phoenix-v-the-open-university

Prof Jo Phoenix Witness Statement (scroll to bottom of page and download)

jophoenix.substack.com/p/phoenix-v-open-university?sd=pf

Thread 1 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4905118-jo-phoenix-vs-the-ou-employment-tribunal-2nd-october-whispers-ben-cooper?page=1

Thread 2 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4913946-prof-jo-phoenix-vs-the-ou-employment-tribunal-thread-2?page=1

Thread 3 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4917480-prof-jo-phoenix-vs-the-ou-employment-tribunal-thread-3

Thread 4 www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4918479-prof-jo-phoenix-vs-the-ou-employment-tribunal-thread-4

Thread 5 https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4919223-prof-jo-phoenix-vs-the-ou-employment-tribunal-thread-5

https://tribunaltweets.substack.com/p/professor-jo-phoenix-v-the-open-university

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chilling19 · 17/10/2023 14:08

When is paragon on the stand?

chilling19 · 17/10/2023 14:09

Witness - THIS WAS THE SITUATION OK!

ickky · 17/10/2023 14:09

Justin won't let TT in the remote room, even though they stated that they had lost audio, so left to re enter. He is proper arsey.

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Mmmnotsure · 17/10/2023 14:10

LM being quite breezy. 'Oh no - it wasn't that - just this instead.' But when BC presses her she immediately gets combative

LM: I tended to be a sounding board for DD but it was her role to deal

ickky · 17/10/2023 14:10

chilling19 · 17/10/2023 14:08

When is paragon on the stand?

After LW I think

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LarkLane · 17/10/2023 14:10

chilling19 · 17/10/2023 14:08

When is paragon on the stand?

They are building a very high stand for her, higher than the highest stand ever, as she is so GOOD at being a GREAT PERSON.

chilling19 · 17/10/2023 14:10

Ickky - so TT are locked out?

PicturesOfDogs · 17/10/2023 14:11

Mmmnotsure · 17/10/2023 12:57

LM: didn't say that

BC: That's your words

LM: no it's not

BC: yes it is, in your statement
😂

Haha, this is the third time now?

Brilliant!

ickky · 17/10/2023 14:11

chilling19 · 17/10/2023 14:10

Ickky - so TT are locked out?

I think so.

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CriticalCondition · 17/10/2023 14:13

LW trying to do a 'it's in my statement ' on BC.

ickky · 17/10/2023 14:14

Oh dear, LW has got it wrong again. And BC apologised first. 😂

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chilling19 · 17/10/2023 14:14

TT back in

ickky · 17/10/2023 14:15

LW does seem to have some trouble with comprehension.

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chilling19 · 17/10/2023 14:16

Ooo, she.is.talking.in.full.stops.

ickky · 17/10/2023 14:16

LW getting angry and speaking with a pause between every word.

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LarkLane · 17/10/2023 14:17

oooh goodo.

Froodwithatowel · 17/10/2023 14:17

Any minute now she'll 👏start 👏clapping👏

Too much Twitter time.

CriticalCondition · 17/10/2023 14:17

LW - my main, my only, reason for meeting Jo that morning...blah blah ...
that was my one and only reason...

chilling19 · 17/10/2023 14:17

So this fabled meeting - do we have minutes?

chilling19 · 17/10/2023 14:18

Froodwithatowel · 17/10/2023 14:17

Any minute now she'll 👏start 👏clapping👏

Too much Twitter time.

😂

Melissamelisante · 17/10/2023 14:18

Power of recall makes remarkable recovery when remembering timings and Jo being stuck in traffic. It's a miracle!

Zebracat · 17/10/2023 14:20

perhaps the next time one of them threatens to resign, The OU could graciously accept it.

ickky · 17/10/2023 14:20

Zebracat · 17/10/2023 14:20

perhaps the next time one of them threatens to resign, The OU could graciously accept it.

In the long run, I'm sure that option would have been cheaper.

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ickky · 17/10/2023 14:22

ALERT Bundle Issues ALERT

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ickky · 17/10/2023 14:23

The lever arch thingys have broken in bundle 11.

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