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Prof Jo Phoenix vs The OU - Employment Tribunal Thread 3

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ickky · 11/10/2023 10:41

Started on 2nd October at Watford Employment Tribunal (Radius House, 51 Clarendon Rd, Watford WD17 1HP 01923 281750)

You may attend in person or remote viewing has been quite limited but you can request log in details from

Email [email protected]

Header should read

URGENT CURRENT CASE - Public Access Request - J Phoenix - The Open University - 3322700/2021

Ask for access link and pin and please give your name and address in the email as they check when you connect to the tribunal.

Abbreviations

JP - Jo Phoenix, Claimant (C)
OU - The Open University, Respondent (R)
J - Regional Employment Judge Young
P - Panel or panel member
BC - Ben Cooper KC, Counsel for C
JM - Jane Mulcahy KC, Counsel for R

OU Departments & Networks:

HWSRA - Health & Wellbeing Strategic Research Area
FASS - Faculty of Arts and Social Sciences
SPC - Dept of Social Policy & Criminology
KMi - Knowledge Media Institute
GCRN - Gender Critical Research Network

OU witnesses

PB - Dr Paraskevi Boukli, Former Senior Lecturer Criminology, Deputy Head SPC 2021-22
IF - Prof Ian Fribbance Dean of FASS
DD - Dr Deborah Drake, Senior Lecturer Criminology, Head of SPC 2018-21
LD - Dr Leigh Downes, Senior Lecturer in Criminology (in SPC), Academic Lead for EDI FASS 2019-21
CT - Catherine Tomlinson, Senior Student Advisor
LW - Louise Westmarland, Prof of Criminology, Co-Deputy Head SPC, 2018-21, Current Head SPC
MW - Prof Marcia Wilson, Dean EDI, 2020-23
CM - Caragh Molloy, Group People Director 2019-23
JD - John Domingue, Prof of Computing Science, Director KMi, 2015-22
PK - Peter Keogh, Professor Health & Society, Member RSSH
CW - Dr Christopher Williams, Senior Lecturer History
SD - Shaun Daley, Head OU’s Resourcing Hub. Head Strategic Resources, Co-Chair OU’s LGBT+ Staff Network
HBC - Helen Bowes-Catton, Lecturer Social Research Methods
NS - Nicola Snarey, Assoc Lecturer Eng Language
NatS - Natalie Starkey, Outreach & Public Engagement Officer Sch Physical Sciences, 2019-22
CT - Cath Tomlinson, Senior Student Advisor
SJ - Samantha Jacobson, Employee Relations Case Manager
RH - Richard Holliman, Prof Engaged Research, Head School Environment, Earth & Ecosystem Sciences, 2019-22. Member of Investigation Panel investigating the C’s grievance

Witness for JP:

SE - Sarah Earle, Professor Modern History Uni of Oxford, Founding member GCRN

Tribunal Tweets - https://twitter.com/tribunaltweets

TT coverage so far https://tribunaltweets.substack.com/p/professor-jo-phoenix-v-the-open-university

Thread 1 https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4905118-jo-phoenix-vs-the-ou-employment-tribunal-2nd-october-whispers-ben-cooper?page=1

Thread 2
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4913946-prof-jo-phoenix-vs-the-ou-employment-tribunal-thread-2?page=1

Prof Jo Phoenix vs The OU - Employment Tribunal Thread 2 | Mumsnet

Abbreviations JP - Jo Phoenix, Claimant (C) OU - The Open University, Respondent (R) J - Regional Employment Judge Young P - Panel or panel memb...

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4913946-prof-jo-phoenix-vs-the-ou-employment-tribunal-thread-2?page=1

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Ameanstreakamilewide · 12/10/2023 11:05

I'm in.

LipbalmOrKnickers · 12/10/2023 11:05

In now

CriticalCondition · 12/10/2023 11:06

Morning all! Good to see everyone, including RocketPandaFlowers

LarkLane · 12/10/2023 11:06

Have we had more resilience bingo wise?

Melissamelisante · 12/10/2023 11:06

For the bingo card 'the network survived'

Sorry to hear what you're going trough RocketPanda

MyLadyDisdainlsYetLiving · 12/10/2023 11:06

I was wondering last night whether part of the capacity issue is the amount of work for the clerk(s) as they seem to let people in and out individually and then go through muting us all.

Melissamelisante · 12/10/2023 11:07

Some git just disconnected me.

ickky · 12/10/2023 11:07

CM - Caragh Molloy, Group People Director 2019-23

Starting today

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pronounsbundlebundle · 12/10/2023 11:08

IIRC in the remedies hearing Maya's resilience was used against her in terms of amount to pay out (i.e. she managed to reinvent herself and didn't end up destitute or having a mental breakdown after being illegally fired.....) so really, either way women lose.

It's ridiculous, someone without resilience would not bring a case.

Mmmnotsure · 12/10/2023 11:08

Melissamelisante · 12/10/2023 11:07

Some git just disconnected me.

Have you been ID'd by the clerk? If you haven't, they let you in and then disconnect you.

ickky · 12/10/2023 11:09

41 in the remote room today.

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chilling19 · 12/10/2023 11:09

Morning all 👋

ickky · 12/10/2023 11:09

and 5 in the lobby

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pronounsbundlebundle · 12/10/2023 11:09

RocketPanda · 12/10/2023 11:02

My sister is a very terfy and is responsible for showing me what was happening all those years ago now. She's a lesbian and was quite annoyed at the infiltration of men at lesbian events and honestly thought ( as did a lot of them) that when it was pointed out that lesbians are not sexually attracted to the male form it would all fizzle out. How wrong we were.

I thought this too. The fact it didn't all just fizzle out shows how much some men hate women IMO.

Winnading · 12/10/2023 11:09

BinturongsSmellOfPopcorn · 11/10/2023 22:21

I think he has the right air of disarming friendliness over a core of steel. But he'd need a fairly severe groom, and I'm not sure it would be right to trim and brush him.

Still forever catching up with this tribunal, could not let this pass me by.

I've seen him in other stuff where he was unrecognisable clean shaven and smart of hair. I forget what in, but I remember being surprised when I finally figured out how I knew him.
Assuming he would want the part in the movie? TV series? Play? I think he would do the grooming.

Melissamelisante · 12/10/2023 11:09

I was ID'd the first day - frightened the crap out of me. Back in the waiting room.

RocketPanda · 12/10/2023 11:10

Thank you for the well wishes everyone

ickky · 12/10/2023 11:10

Cup Down, no one collecting it.

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Ameanstreakamilewide · 12/10/2023 11:11

RocketPanda · 12/10/2023 11:10

Thank you for the well wishes everyone

💐

Melissamelisante · 12/10/2023 11:11

How many in now? I'm still waiting to be let in.

ickky · 12/10/2023 11:11

same

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chilling19 · 12/10/2023 11:12

Dodging questions already. They really don't like the word 'discrimination' do they?

Melissamelisante · 12/10/2023 11:13

This is mega frustrating. I've been let in on all previous occasions.

ickky · 12/10/2023 11:13

If you are still waiting to get in the remote room, ring them.

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