Prof Jo Phoenix vs The OU - Employment Tribunal Thread 3

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Started on 2nd October at Watford Employment Tribunal (Radius House, 51 Clarendon Rd, Watford WD17 1HP 01923 281750)

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URGENT CURRENT CASE - Public Access Request - J Phoenix - The Open University - 3322700/2021

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Abbreviations

JP - Jo Phoenix, Claimant (C)
OU - The Open University, Respondent (R)
J - Regional Employment Judge Young
P - Panel or panel member
BC - Ben Cooper KC, Counsel for C
JM - Jane Mulcahy KC, Counsel for R

OU Departments & Networks:

HWSRA - Health & Wellbeing Strategic Research Area
FASS - Faculty of Arts and Social Sciences
SPC - Dept of Social Policy & Criminology
KMi - Knowledge Media Institute
GCRN - Gender Critical Research Network

OU witnesses

PB - Dr Paraskevi Boukli, Former Senior Lecturer Criminology, Deputy Head SPC 2021-22
IF - Prof Ian Fribbance Dean of FASS
DD - Dr Deborah Drake, Senior Lecturer Criminology, Head of SPC 2018-21
LD - Dr Leigh Downes, Senior Lecturer in Criminology (in SPC), Academic Lead for EDI FASS 2019-21
CT - Catherine Tomlinson, Senior Student Advisor
LW - Louise Westmarland, Prof of Criminology, Co-Deputy Head SPC, 2018-21, Current Head SPC
MW - Prof Marcia Wilson, Dean EDI, 2020-23
CM - Caragh Molloy, Group People Director 2019-23
JD - John Domingue, Prof of Computing Science, Director KMi, 2015-22
PK - Peter Keogh, Professor Health & Society, Member RSSH
CW - Dr Christopher Williams, Senior Lecturer History
SD - Shaun Daley, Head OU’s Resourcing Hub. Head Strategic Resources, Co-Chair OU’s LGBT+ Staff Network
HBC - Helen Bowes-Catton, Lecturer Social Research Methods
NS - Nicola Snarey, Assoc Lecturer Eng Language
NatS - Natalie Starkey, Outreach & Public Engagement Officer Sch Physical Sciences, 2019-22
CT - Cath Tomlinson, Senior Student Advisor
SJ - Samantha Jacobson, Employee Relations Case Manager
RH - Richard Holliman, Prof Engaged Research, Head School Environment, Earth & Ecosystem Sciences, 2019-22. Member of Investigation Panel investigating the C’s grievance

Witness for JP:

SE - Sarah Earle, Professor Modern History Uni of Oxford, Founding member GCRN

Tribunal Tweets - https://twitter.com/tribunaltweets

TT coverage so far https://tribunaltweets.substack.com/p/professor-jo-phoenix-v-the-open-university

Thread 1 https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4905118-jo-phoenix-vs-the-ou-employment-tribunal-2nd-october-whispers-ben-cooper?page=1

Thread 2
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4913946-prof-jo-phoenix-vs-the-ou-employment-tribunal-thread-2?page=1

Still waiting

I'm doing OK, had a bit of a mini stroke so that's been fun. Not really. On the upside everything going well I can go and stay in my sisters house next week. She lives near the hospital in Dublin whereas I live on the edge of civilisation in the west so it's just safer for me.

IF was a bit of a disaster really. I wonder how many OU witnesses are feeling a bit squeaky arsed now they've seen BC in action.

Hope everyone's got their bingo cards ready.

Something seemed to happen but then I was back in the waiting room

Sorry to hear about the mini stroke @RocketPanda hope it wasn't too serious?

@RocketPanda so sorry to hear that.

Ok so for bingo we've got Amnesia, Not Black and White, Sucking Female Cock.

Anything else?
May I suggest Unsafe and Vulnerable?

It's ok. I always try to find an upside to things and I realised that now that I'm officially unable to return to the workforce I can be an absolute out and out Terf without any SM restrictions.

@RocketPanda that must have been scary for you, and you must tire easily. I've been though neuro too, a whopper, so thinking of you

I don't recall,I don't think that was me,are you sure I thought that was someone else,I wasn't there that day

For bingo I think we need to add:
I was busy
I don't use Twitter
We had to respond quickly

For bingo: there was no single person who authored this; I wouldn't necessarily agree but that's their opinion; GCRN was not shut down

For the bingo card.
The Podcast
I didn't listen to it to the end./I didn't listen to it at all/ Someone else told me what was on it.

Oh - they're bingo card suggestions! I thought one of the witnesses had accidentally wandered into the thread.

Untrammelled terfery is certainly an upside, Rocket, although sorry about the cause.

Is anyone in?

'A Twitter-storm'
'A lot of traffic on Twitter'
'no, I don't use Twitter'
'I barely use twitter'
'Twitter?'

That is a bright silver lining.

Must have been scary. I hate when our bodies don't behave as they should, I think it is the out of our control feeling.

I am glad you have that positive mindset, I really think it improves things.

@RocketPanda sending 💐🍰and ☕(that's tea by the way, coffee is the devil's work)

So sorry about the mini stroke, that sounds a bit shit. Hope you are recovering well and your sister is terfy and takes good care of you.

Good bingo suggestions.

@LarkLane it really does take its toll, I'm sorry you had to go through it.

@RocketPanda no offence @pronounsbundlebundle but I think a proper mug is warranted. Can't fault the cake though.

Thank you everyone watching, I appreciate your posts.

Has 'more light, less heat' or some variation been on the bingo card?

Just delurking to send best wishes to @RocketPanda

Also great thanks to @ickky and everyone else for the twitter links/twitter reposts.

My sister is a very terfy and is responsible for showing me what was happening all those years ago now. She's a lesbian and was quite annoyed at the infiltration of men at lesbian events and honestly thought ( as did a lot of them) that when it was pointed out that lesbians are not sexually attracted to the male form it would all fizzle out. How wrong we were.

@RocketPanda happy if you ever want to talk via pm. I found the hardest part was tiredness and it's a bit lonely when you come out the other side despite all the love and support. A big hug to you.

@RocketPanda Sorry that you are going through this. Be kind to yourself. Great mindset, though!

For the card:
we were under a lot of pressure
I/we was/were told...

Glad you’re on the mend @RocketPanda