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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Gender critics akin to white supremacists, claims SNP’s Mhairi Black

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IwantToRetire · 09/08/2023 01:54

<a class="break-all" href="https://archive.ph/o/lpwH9/www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2023/07/07/snp-mp-mhairi-black-accused-of-hypocrisy/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Mhairi Black said that “bad actors” and “50-year-old Karens” were responsible for the <a class="break-all" href="https://archive.ph/o/lpwH9/www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/05/10/scotland-young-children-trans-puberty-blockers-health/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">debate over transgender rights and suggested those who vocally <a class="break-all" href="https://archive.ph/o/lpwH9/www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2023/05/13/joanna-cherry-scottish-mp-comedy-club-apology-gender-trans/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">disagreed with her views on such issues could not be “decent” people.

“There are definitely <a class="break-all" href="https://archive.ph/o/lpwH9/www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/07/31/gender-critical-books-hidden-librarians-calderdale/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">bad actors at play who are radicalising people who are vulnerable. They are radicalising people who are too online.

“And they’re also using this small community as a wedge issue to cause chaos and make people divide amongst themselves.

“When you start tracing it back, the money always links back to fundamental Christian groups in America, Baptist groups, anti-abortion organisations.”

And lots more at https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2023/08/08/mhairi-black-snp-fringe-gender-critical-white-supremacist/ which can be read on https://archive.ph

Interesting that other news reports dont include her making these remarks:

https://uk.sports.yahoo.com/news/definite-bad-actors-debate-trans-143603944.html

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/mhairi-black-westminster-snp-holyrood-christian-b2389561.html

Gender critics akin to white supremacists, claims SNP’s Mhairi Black

The Scottish nationalists’ deputy Westminster leader accuses ‘bad actors’ of hijacking debate over transgender rights

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2023/08/08/mhairi-black-snp-fringe-gender-critical-white-supremacist

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IwantToRetire · 10/08/2023 17:03

I know there are some good constituency MPs, but we never hear about them. Probably too busy helping people who may or may not have voted for them.

But always remember hearing about one (quite left) Labour MP who resigned on the grounds that he didnt think that as an MP he had elected to be a social worker for his constituents.

Not thinking that maybe as an MP he could create the change that would mean constituents in run down boroughs wouldn't have to rely on social workers (or MPs doing their job) to be able to get on and live their lifes.

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C8H10N4O2 · 10/08/2023 23:05

Another MC white kid appropriating WC creds and playing to the gallery for the forthcoming media career. I'm sure she will have a lovely time naval gazing and putting the world to rights (in a way which demands nothing of them) with youtube Owen/Ash/Penny.

IwantToRetire · 11/08/2023 00:28

Have posted this on the thread about Joanne Cherry's Edinburgh as C4 news, surprise surprise might light of any contentious comments (mainly by not reference MB at all) but was able to show that gender crictical feminists are just sad old curmudgeon, just look at all these people showing trans can be fun.

Clip of segement on C4 news, with some nice shots of Women Wont Wheesht t-shirts
https://www.channel4.com/news/trans-debate-takes-centre-stage-at-edinburgh-fringe

Trans debate takes centre stage at Edinburgh Fringe

In the year following the Scottish Government's controversial Gender Recognition Bill, it's perhaps unsurprising that some shows at this year's Edinburgh Fringe are touching on the subject of trans rights. 

https://www.channel4.com/news/trans-debate-takes-centre-stage-at-edinburgh-fringe

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LoobiJee · 11/08/2023 08:24

ArabeIIaScott · 10/08/2023 22:38

“Forgive me for being out of the loop.”

Out of the loop? Is he seriously trying to make out that the SNP doesn’t have a media team monitoring press coverage and briefing him, the party leader, on it?

ArabeIIaScott · 11/08/2023 14:08

LoobiJee · 11/08/2023 08:24

“Forgive me for being out of the loop.”

Out of the loop? Is he seriously trying to make out that the SNP doesn’t have a media team monitoring press coverage and briefing him, the party leader, on it?

'This thing you call 'sexism', I have not heard of such a thing, and these all seem to be women arguing amongst themselves and it does not concern me in the slightest.'

SirChenjins · 11/08/2023 19:08

ArabeIIaScott · 11/08/2023 14:08

'This thing you call 'sexism', I have not heard of such a thing, and these all seem to be women arguing amongst themselves and it does not concern me in the slightest.'

This. Youseless isn’t interested in defending women so he pretends he’s not aware of sexism or misogyny.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 11/08/2023 20:14

What a prick that guy is. I just think of him falling over on his little scooter, every time he speaks.

ArabeIIaScott · 11/08/2023 20:18

https://www.scotsman.com/news/opinion/columnists/snp-leadership-contest-humza-yousafs-pink-heart-reveals-hes-a-lot-to-learn-about-sexism-despite-his-promise-to-advance-womens-rights-susan-dalgety-4078197

'Yousaf is typical of far too many male politicians, particularly those who like to think of themselves as on the left. They pay lip service to women’s rights, but it is feminism on their terms. They rarely talk of the economic divide that keeps so many women in poverty, or of the institutional sexism that sees men maintain supremacy – a recent Fawcett Society report showed that women are outnumbered two to one in positions of power.

Instead they, and their handmaids, patronise with us clumsy messaging, waving pink hearts – or driving pink buses – while mouthing platitudes about our “rights” as if they were theirs to give away. But women have no need for sparkly slogans. What we want, what we really, really want, is an end to the economic, cultural and political oppression that has kept us down throughout history. Humza Yousaf has a lot to learn.'

Sex & Power 2022

Sex & Power 2022 charts progress towards equal representation for women in the top jobs in the UK.

https://www.fawcettsociety.org.uk/sex-power-2022

Boiledbeetle · 11/08/2023 20:36

WickedSerious · 10/08/2023 14:24

Still true though.

😁

TastesLikeStrawberriesOnASummerEvening · 11/08/2023 21:18

IwantToRetire · 11/08/2023 00:28

Have posted this on the thread about Joanne Cherry's Edinburgh as C4 news, surprise surprise might light of any contentious comments (mainly by not reference MB at all) but was able to show that gender crictical feminists are just sad old curmudgeon, just look at all these people showing trans can be fun.

Clip of segement on C4 news, with some nice shots of Women Wont Wheesht t-shirts
https://www.channel4.com/news/trans-debate-takes-centre-stage-at-edinburgh-fringe

I've met the ladies in the WWW Tshirts a few times now, they're great.

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