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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

France - women only lesbian groups banned from Pride events

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ArabeIIaScott · 20/06/2023 10:17

https://reduxx.info/france-female-only-lesbian-groups-barred-from-pride-month-events-over-transphobia/

'A female-only lesbian advocacy group in France was excluded from their local Pride parade on the basis that they did not allow the membership of trans-identified males. Femmes Entre Elles was labeled “transphobic” for restricting its advocacy to issues faced by women.
Femmes Entre Elles, which translates to “Women Among Themselves,” is a single-sex association for lesbian and bisexual women that has operated for over 30 years. It has been involved in campaigns to support women’s sex-based rights and the rights of lesbian women.
But on May 27, the group was informed via email that they were not welcome to participate in the annual Pride march in Rennes'

FRANCE: Female-Only Lesbian Groups Barred From Pride Month Events Over "Transphobia" - Reduxx

A female-only lesbian advocacy group in France was excluded from their local Pride parade on the basis that they did not allow the membership of trans-identified males. Femmes Entre Elles was labeled “transphobic” for restricting its advocacy to issues...

https://reduxx.info/france-female-only-lesbian-groups-barred-from-pride-month-events-over-transphobia

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Hepwo · 22/06/2023 21:59

Oh that's the report with Iceland at the top, a tiny country with a population of 375,000

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OhWhatMerryHellIsThis · 22/06/2023 22:01

Ireland has self-id.

Not such a great record on women's rights, as far as I can remember, so I'm not entirely sure they go together.

And no, we weren't asked, obviously Hmm

suggestionsplease1 · 22/06/2023 22:01

ArabeIIaScott · 22/06/2023 21:56

I don't mean to be rude, suggestions. But it's all so damn vague. If you're not willing to define words and you thing we're being 'hung up' on definitions, how on earth can anyone discuss anythign? It's all just a swirling meaningless miasma.

But that's the whole point...these countries, who have done so well for women, are happy to say 'ok, yeah, we don't actually think it's necessary to have one singular definition of woman or man, and we think we can proceed in a good way forward, allowing people more freedom to define that for themselves'.

ArabeIIaScott · 22/06/2023 22:02

Look, you've brought this same argument up before. It's not relevant, it's derailing, and I'm not going to discuss it. Start another thread if you want to discuss that report so badly.

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 22/06/2023 22:02

Not such a great record on women's rights, as far as I can remember, so I'm not entirely sure they go together.

Nor does Malta, which is frequently held up as a genderist paradise.

sanluca · 22/06/2023 22:04

Suggestions, you have been told multiple times, looking at countries who score high (but still dismal) in economic power of women says zero about the social position of women. Nor can the impact of self id be visible yet in the calculations of the economic positions of the sexes as it is too soon, neither positive ('women' score better because male people climb the career ladder and then change their sex registration), nor negative (women lose opportunities because male people use them as 'women').

Personally I think these countries basically went well, we 'achieved' sex equality because 1 of the 5 CEO's is female, so what is the next group we can support and we just helped women so they should take a backseat now

suggestionsplease1 · 22/06/2023 22:04

OhWhatMerryHellIsThis · 22/06/2023 22:01

Ireland has self-id.

Not such a great record on women's rights, as far as I can remember, so I'm not entirely sure they go together.

And no, we weren't asked, obviously Hmm

Ireland performs better on the global gender gap index than the UK.

Hepwo · 22/06/2023 22:04

Norway 5.4 million
Finland 5.4 million
New Zealand 5.1 million

Three countries with 1/14th of the population of the UK.

I'm wondering why we are being compared with these tiny remote countries?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 22/06/2023 22:05

What does this even tenuously have to do with French lesbians at Pride?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 22/06/2023 22:05

New Zealand is clearly fucking awful for women's rights.

Hepwo · 22/06/2023 22:06

Suggestions likes to wedge it any where it's not expected.

Which is kinda the problem in a nutshell.

Hepwo · 22/06/2023 22:08

suggestionsplease1 · 22/06/2023 22:01

But that's the whole point...these countries, who have done so well for women, are happy to say 'ok, yeah, we don't actually think it's necessary to have one singular definition of woman or man, and we think we can proceed in a good way forward, allowing people more freedom to define that for themselves'.

Did all 15 odd millions tell you that suggestions?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 22/06/2023 22:08

Hepwo Grin

suggestionsplease1 · 22/06/2023 22:08

sanluca · 22/06/2023 22:04

Suggestions, you have been told multiple times, looking at countries who score high (but still dismal) in economic power of women says zero about the social position of women. Nor can the impact of self id be visible yet in the calculations of the economic positions of the sexes as it is too soon, neither positive ('women' score better because male people climb the career ladder and then change their sex registration), nor negative (women lose opportunities because male people use them as 'women').

Personally I think these countries basically went well, we 'achieved' sex equality because 1 of the 5 CEO's is female, so what is the next group we can support and we just helped women so they should take a backseat now

The report doesn't just look at the economic gender gap; it examines four key areas: health, education, economy and politics.

And actually the economic position of women and social position of women is very highly correlated.

suggestionsplease1 · 22/06/2023 22:11

Hepwo · 22/06/2023 22:04

Norway 5.4 million
Finland 5.4 million
New Zealand 5.1 million

Three countries with 1/14th of the population of the UK.

I'm wondering why we are being compared with these tiny remote countries?

Are you saying it is understandable that the UK performs poorly on women's equality compared to these countries because it has a bigger population??

Seems a strange position to take.

ArabeIIaScott · 22/06/2023 22:14

Ereshkigalangcleg · 22/06/2023 22:05

What does this even tenuously have to do with French lesbians at Pride?

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QueenHippolyta · 22/06/2023 22:18

suggestionsplease1 · 22/06/2023 22:11

Are you saying it is understandable that the UK performs poorly on women's equality compared to these countries because it has a bigger population??

Seems a strange position to take.

Do you mean "women with cocks" equality? aka men.
Because they're doing great.

It's those boring cunty women who need help.

P.S. Men have cocks and Lesbians don't want to fuck them

Hepwo · 22/06/2023 22:20

suggestionsplease1 · 22/06/2023 22:11

Are you saying it is understandable that the UK performs poorly on women's equality compared to these countries because it has a bigger population??

Seems a strange position to take.

You sound like a poor impersonation of Cathy Newman!

France - women only lesbian groups banned from Pride events
suggestionsplease1 · 22/06/2023 22:21

O I know, it's only ok for GC posters to put up posts that are slightly off-track, isn't it.

But this issues goes to the heart of the matter, it's a point that is relevant to virtually every single thread on these boards.

I believe that these are countries showing that they believe that women's rights and well-being and trans rights and well-being can be achieved simultaneously.

This is antithetical to the core position that GC posters appear to take.

Hepwo · 22/06/2023 22:22

A simultaneous transgasm.

suggestionsplease1 · 22/06/2023 22:22

QueenHippolyta · 22/06/2023 22:18

Do you mean "women with cocks" equality? aka men.
Because they're doing great.

It's those boring cunty women who need help.

P.S. Men have cocks and Lesbians don't want to fuck them

Trans people are not doing great. Look at the studies out there.

Boiledbeetle · 22/06/2023 22:27

Hepwo · 22/06/2023 22:06

Suggestions likes to wedge it any where it's not expected.

Which is kinda the problem in a nutshell.

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QueenHippolyta · 22/06/2023 22:28

suggestionsplease1 · 22/06/2023 22:22

Trans people are not doing great. Look at the studies out there.

I don't give a damn about trans people; help yourselves , not my problem.
I'm utterly selfish and care about Women and Lesbians only and how to use our power as 51% of the population to better our lives.
Women, those cunty beings, come first!

ArabeIIaScott · 22/06/2023 22:33

Some of the lesbians involved were attacked - pelted with eggs - in 2021.

'The women, many of whom were survivors of the sex trade, soon found themselves swarmed and outnumbered by trans activists who called them “SWERFs,” for Sex Worker Exclusionary Radical Feminist, and shouted “no feminism without whores.”
At the base of the monument located at the center of the Place de la République, trans activists spray painted a menacing message: “Save a trans person, kill a TERF.”'

https://twitter.com/l_amazone_/status/1368615671827927042

https://twitter.com/l_amazone_/status/1368615671827927042

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ArabeIIaScott · 22/06/2023 22:35

This from March:

'A lesbian bar that has operated in Rennes, France for nearly a decade has been forced to close its doors following a disturbing swell of vandalism and death threats by trans activists. Orane Guéneau, the owner and manager of lesbian bar La Part des Anges, was publicly denounced as “transphobic” and accused of “misgendering” by critics.'

https://reduxx.info/france-vandalism-death-threats-from-trans-activists-force-closure-of-lesbian-bar/

FRANCE: Vandalism, Death Threats from Trans Activists Force Closure of Lesbian Bar - Reduxx

A lesbian bar that has operated in Rennes, France for nearly a decade has been forced to close its doors following a disturbing swell of vandalism and death threats by trans activists. Orane Guéneau, the owner and manager of lesbian bar La Part des Ang...

https://reduxx.info/france-vandalism-death-threats-from-trans-activists-force-closure-of-lesbian-bar

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