France - women only lesbian groups banned from Pride events

[ArabeIIaScott]

https://reduxx.info/france-female-only-lesbian-groups-barred-from-pride-month-events-over-transphobia/

'A female-only lesbian advocacy group in France was excluded from their local Pride parade on the basis that they did not allow the membership of trans-identified males. Femmes Entre Elles was labeled “transphobic” for restricting its advocacy to issues faced by women.
Femmes Entre Elles, which translates to “Women Among Themselves,” is a single-sex association for lesbian and bisexual women that has operated for over 30 years. It has been involved in campaigns to support women’s sex-based rights and the rights of lesbian women.
But on May 27, the group was informed via email that they were not welcome to participate in the annual Pride march in Rennes'

I know young lesbians are being terrorised by all this and feel for the loss of the freedom, venues and opportunities us older lesbians had access to back in the day.

On here, when I look at some of the intense anti - women, lesbophobic posts - I still reckon, if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck then it's likely.........

As MNHQ advise: "we always ask users to remember that not everyone on the internet is who they say they are"

But transphobes are actively backed by nazis. If you don't like it, perhaps you lot should do more to stop them rocking up to support your 'rallies'.

The Nazis that showed up in Melbourne had one banner which said stop pedophiles.

I'm going to assume tea disagrees with that banner.

I know.

is it desperation or is it deliberate.

There are actually some limited areas where I think there are issues to be resolved, but I think they can be resolved without claiming trans women are men and trans men are women

No one needs to claim either of those two things, they just are.

The "claim" is the other way around. That men are women and women are men.

oh....no.... Hepwo, Klaxon wasn't talking about Melbourne. I assume they realised just exactly as you say.

And that those men spent more time ( I timed it) down with the Victorian socialists then they did anywhere near the women. And when they were near the women, they were also near the trans activists. And in fact, there were trans activists in amongst the women!

I know..... it is mind blowing isn't it when the reality is revealed.

Those Melbourne Nazis must be aligned with the Victorian Socialists and ANTIFA who was down that end where the Neo nazi group spent the MOST time.

And ANYONE who agrees that paedophiles should never be around children is also ALIGNED!

Well, what the heck are you doing here in the 'bowels' of Mumsnet?

👏👏😂

Late to the party but my word, is this yet another one who just can't stop thinking about KJK.

I love that she lives rent free in so many folk's heads, it's delicious.

Please say who the ring leaders are as this is the first I've heard of them. Safety for women is very important.

@Datun;
"someone try so hard to get lesbians to accept dick.

Nazi bollocks, ringleaders, dehumanisation, appeals to authority, anecdotes, your mates and too many slurs to shake a stick at.

Seriously. It's never going to happen. Lesbians don't like men's cocks. They think they're yucky. Soz."

Yup, it's ridiculous. We don't like dick and the men attached to them!
Hell, at my old lesbian group there was a transwoman (man) who had his dick cut off ( so he joyously informed us 😫). He was still a creepy man and of course no one would date him.

Ooh, ringleaders. Excellent. Are we doing it turn about? Do we have to bake?

So where are we at:

'Lesbians are totally free to go and have their own meetings, marches and conferences!'

Oh... wait... no! Every one of those public events results in those lesbians being harassed, threatened, assaulted, protested and cancelled. So that is in reality FALSE.

'Next we have the doubling down on the assertions that a person who some people agree with, some don't (but is our leader!!) is associating with NAZIS.'

Oh.... wait.... no! Because if that gem of an insight holds true, then actually there are now whole groups of LGBT people AND socialists AND ANTIFA who are also aligned with nazi people. So that one to in reality is FALSE.

Guilt by association is never a great tactic.

Oh, and we are still waiting for answer to the excellent question from eresh as to whether two males who are trans can also be a 'lesbian couple'.

I do want to hear suggestions and klaxon give us guidance on that. Maybe they are conferring with Stonewall or something.

That's because they are. I hope they are getting support for that IRL, but I suspect not.

Am I a "ringleader"? I do hope so.

Sorry Tinsel, I think Glinner has to be the ringleader because he’s a boy

So unfair.

If we're doing guilt by association:

The people protesting against Posie and Let Women Speak are aligned with the people making death and rape threats to Jo Rowling, telling women to "die in a grease fire", and on and on and on.

Only two groups of people of people have had public book-burnings of Harry Potter books - TRAs and the American religious right. And the Nazis were big on publicly burning books by authors that they disapproved of.

So now you're aligned with TRA extremists, religious nuts and Hitler, yeah?

There's a rota.

I'll do a spreadsheet. But I'm not bloody baking.

I'm baking! Hmm ginger cake or American type muffins?

I bake vegan too, because I'm a cliche lesbian 😂

Just showing up to high five my fellow lesbians for showing the lovely gentleman the door.

I've been chuckling, because nothing says 'nazi' quite like book burning, speech and thought control, and the sterilisation of gays, lesbians and autistic people.

But yanno. Nasty old KJK.

If I were a TRA who monitored MN, and a thread appeared about lesbians, I’d certainly claim to be a lesbian who was trans-inclusive. I mean, it makes sense, i guess. So many transwomen do seem to identify as ‘lesbian’, as opposed to ‘straight’.
Oddly ……………………………………. 🤔

In fact, the pool seems to be so large, that transwomen ‘lesbians’ could all just date each other, I’d’ve thought. Except that they, also, appear to be as ‘TERF in the sheets’ as actual lesbians.
Oddly ……………………………………. 🤔

Its utterly dystopian that it is necessary to say 'women only' lesbian group in the first place.

It's absolute madness