France - women only lesbian groups banned from Pride events

[ArabeIIaScott]

https://reduxx.info/france-female-only-lesbian-groups-barred-from-pride-month-events-over-transphobia/

'A female-only lesbian advocacy group in France was excluded from their local Pride parade on the basis that they did not allow the membership of trans-identified males. Femmes Entre Elles was labeled “transphobic” for restricting its advocacy to issues faced by women.
Femmes Entre Elles, which translates to “Women Among Themselves,” is a single-sex association for lesbian and bisexual women that has operated for over 30 years. It has been involved in campaigns to support women’s sex-based rights and the rights of lesbian women.
But on May 27, the group was informed via email that they were not welcome to participate in the annual Pride march in Rennes'

Nope. Never claimed transphobes are nazis.

But transphobes are actively backed by nazis. If you don't like it, perhaps you lot should do more to stop them rocking up to support your 'rallies'.

So, again we have someone attempting to discredit others because some people turn up at public event where they cannot be stopped that that someone considers to be a 'x' ).

So. if a x turned up at a Pride event, those Pride organisers would have aligned themselves with those people.

Remember, before this event, Kellie Jay Keen denounced any connection with nazis.

So, even if the Pride organisers denounced those people on international news Klaxon here would declare them to be aligned with x.

I have friends who are lesbians going out with transwomen

Did you ever think you'd live in a would where an actual lesbian would come out with this sort of utter illogical, offensive bullshit?

What a silly link. It just says "claims"with no actual proof or real evidence. The NZ Herald themselves stated that several groups just turned up.

By that logic does this mean all TRAs who show up at Speakers Corner are PP and Womens Rights fans? Cool 😎

The Revolutionary Communist Party and the Socialist Workers used to rock up as well, trying to appropriate the causes and blag free publicity exactly like the Nazis Down Under. Didn't make me anything to do with either the RCP or the SWP then and it doesn't make Kellie-Jay Keen anything to do with Nazis now.

Guys you need to get your story straight.

You lot

I don't know about anyone else on this thread, by I know that I'm just a random person using MN - I'm not part of any specific church or movement and I don't understand why you're talking as if everyone is one big homogenous group.

The reason I feel the need to say this is because I often feel that my experiences and opinions are dismissed as "obviously being rooted in transphobia" because some Nazi or ultra-right wing activist said that transwomen are biologically male and so if I say a similar thing, I'm assumed to be a Nazi too.

If we can't move away from assuming that everyone who disagrees on gender ideology is doing so in bad faith, how will we ever find any common ground?

I assume common ground and discussion is what you were seeking here?

Ha ha! - now we all KNOW you're pulling it out of your arse

Man TeaKlaxon is sounding increasingly unhinged

perhaps you lot should do more to stop them rocking up to support your 'rallies'.

How about "you lot" stay away and then the Police will be able to concentrate on the Nazis who I suspect are better behaved than "you lot".

Nah, thought as much. You clearly have nothing better to do. Waffling online to whoever will read it. Perhaps just try waffling when you're alone, it's not as embarrassing then.

‘The ringleaders’

🤣🤣🤣

Because the point has never actually been safety and risk for the ring leaders.

Who are the ring leaders? I'm getting very confused.

"Do you think they were protesting Posie?"

I don't know. Do you have evidence either way?

No?

They are likely to have attended to stir up trouble. They like to do that. But hey, your extremely prejudiced take MUST be true. Even without a skerrick of evidence to support it.

"Honestly, you're about three posts away from saying 'Sure how could she have known what all those masked men wearing far right symbols and sieg heiling really believed'."

Fuck. Really? Do you actually think that Kellie Jay Keen even saw those people? Have you even seen the footage? She was assaulted as soon as she arrived and just as she was surrounded by security on the way in, she was surrounded by security on the way out. And spitting, kicking and screaming people who are proud to have protested women speaking.

Crikey, do you honestly believe that you are convincing people here on this thread?

or do you just like to throw around completely unfounded and completely ill-logical personal attacks at people?

I am not three posts away from anything. There really is some kind of disconnect here in your thinking.

This really has been a great demonstration.

<quietly places hot sweet tea next to TeaKlaxon>

it feels like when the adrenaline dies down you’re going to need this

Jeez yeah now you mention it, maybe the Nazis were actually there in support of trans people.

All violence at PP’s Auckland event in March was only carried out by trans rights activists and their supporters (all male-bodied people), and much of it was caught on camera.

No violence was carried out by women, who just wanted to hear women speak.

Great that you are 'nearly getting it' as you like to keep saying.

It's so pathetic. I remember when straight men would say they were ' a Lesbian inside ' to screw Lesbians and it was fucking ridiculous then!

Pride is now a Queer, Pansexual+ event and that's fine.

We Lesbians have our secret Underground
So No Validation for you TeaKlaxon bwahaha

For all that women have suggested 'third spaces', we're creating them ourselves. I guess all the pansexual people who are ever so keen to have an 'inclusive' Pride will be quite happy with this.

Dangerous Coats

Someone clever once said
Women were not allowed pockets
In case they carried leaflets
To spread sedition
Which means unrest
To you & me
A grandiose word
For commonsense
Fairness
Kindness
Equality
So ladies, start sewing
Dangerous coats
Made of pockets & sedition

Sharon Owens

Again with the dehumanising language.

And again with the completely lack of ability to understand reality. There is no way for any group to 'stop them rocking up' to an unticketed event held in the public spaces.

FFS Where is your ability to critically think. All that you have done here today is parrot complete bollocks off twitter. That is all you seem to have.

Show me how Pride will stop any group of person they disagree with from attending their events. Do they have a magical radar that will deflect unwanted people from standing and watching or listening?

Really? If they have one, how have they programmed it to include every single person on the fucking planet that they don't share a completely aligned belief system with.

Because fucking hell, and this is wonderful, they can make zillions off that technology.

Bring it on I say! It would stop all espionage and no more wars.

I think there has to be a 100 mile exclusion zone before you are able to declare unNazi status.

I'm heading out tonight with some special cones. I may be a while.

No, and I still don't!! 🤣

Christ almighty @TeaKlaxon, I've never seen someone try so hard to get lesbians to accept dick.

Nazi bollocks, ringleaders, dehumanisation, appeals to authority, anecdotes, your mates and too many slurs to shake a stick at.

Seriously. It's never going to happen. Lesbians don't like men's cocks. They think they're yucky. Soz.

Go out and smell the flowers.

There's more to life.

Auckland? Fucking hell. She barely got out in one piece, and you are expecting her to have undertaken a detailed clothing audit of the entire mob.

Honestly, the desperation can't be good for you really.

Men aren't women.