France - women only lesbian groups banned from Pride events

[ArabeIIaScott]

https://reduxx.info/france-female-only-lesbian-groups-barred-from-pride-month-events-over-transphobia/

'A female-only lesbian advocacy group in France was excluded from their local Pride parade on the basis that they did not allow the membership of trans-identified males. Femmes Entre Elles was labeled “transphobic” for restricting its advocacy to issues faced by women.
Femmes Entre Elles, which translates to “Women Among Themselves,” is a single-sex association for lesbian and bisexual women that has operated for over 30 years. It has been involved in campaigns to support women’s sex-based rights and the rights of lesbian women.
But on May 27, the group was informed via email that they were not welcome to participate in the annual Pride march in Rennes'

So many deletions! But I get the gist of what those posts say.

By the logic of a much deleted poster those on here must actually, as well as Nazis, be aligned with the deleted posters point of view because they were here right besides the rest of us on this thread. (Yet obviously we aren't because their posts have had to be deleted) In real life that would equate to them standing in the middle of a group of us. And therefore if we are aligned with that poster that poster must be aligned with us and therefore that poster is also aligned with actual Nazis by the 'by association rules' they seem to have made up in their heads!

It's all fucking cuckoo land levels of la la.

In the words of Magdalen Berns

There is no such thing as a lesbian with a penis.

And can I be excused from the baking rota it's too hot to be doing that!

Well I guess we are both used to unanswered questions. 🤷‍♂️

Nobody has ever sensibly addressed my query as to why the top 4 countries in the world that are doing the best to close the gender gap between men and women are also countries that have proceeded with self-id?

https://www.weforum.org/reports/global-gender-gap-report-2023/

If it's such a crazy idea why are the countries that are doing the best for the women in them, and have the strongest history and track record on equality for women, also proceeding with self-id?

Have the millions of people in these countries that support self-id just suddenly lost their minds or something?

Why would you think that these countries who have made such good policies for women are suddenly making bad decisions for women now?

Oh God - not the misreading of the dodgy data again. Nope - this has been done to death and discredited. Not playing 😂

Have you looked at the source of the data? It is used by governments worldwide.

Oh my word that's a poor swerve. Focus!

Ginger cake, please, anyone who's making!

Do you not think this point is worth considering?

Why do you think the countries that have the strongest track records for women's equality and wellbeing are happy to proceed with self-id?

Hahaha nice one @suggestionsplease1

You're too kind.

It's interesting how the question I asked can't be answered simply.

I guess we'll all have to draw our own conclusions as to whether there are limits to males identifying as lesbians.

It's a question that clearly doesn't bother the top 4 countries in the world on the global gender gap index, so I'm not overly bothered by it either.

No, because we've done this dance before: the assertions are questionable, and the question is whataboutery.

That's a really poor response.

This is very highly regarded report on equality for women and is referred to by governments and bodies worldwide to help them understand and address the inequalities that women experience.

I can answer!

Are two males who both identify as women in a lesbian relationship:

No.

Can you define what you mean by 'women' here?

Why do you think the top 4 performing countries in the world on the global gender gap index are happy to proceed with easier ways for people to define as the gender they feel most aligned with?

They are not hung up on definitions, and they are doing the best for women.

I can answer!

Are two males who both identify as women in a lesbian relationship:

No.

I doubt there are many people, however much they are ra ra trans rights, who truly believe that they are.

Have the millions of people in these countries that support self-id just suddenly lost their minds or something?

Have the millions of people in these countries had a proper consultation on this? Fully engaging with the millions? With a proper explanation of the implications?

The answer is very unlikely to be yes. We all know the way that gets rammed in.

So, the answer from your two options is or something.

'They are not hung up on definitions, and they are doing the best for women.'

Or, you know, people in general.

They are not hung up on definitions, and they are doing the best for women.

Millions of people told you that did they?

Yeah they've clearly got the right ideas about things, eh?

'things' - who the fuck knows, mate?

I don't mean to be rude, suggestions. But it's all so damn vague. If you're not willing to define words and you thing we're being 'hung up' on definitions, how on earth can anyone discuss anythign? It's all just a swirling meaningless miasma.

I think they're in a pretty good position to know, given their strong track record.

Yes, I'm sure you do. I don't share your belief.