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Gender Wars - Channel 4 - 10pm tonight

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chouxchoux · 30/05/2023 20:43

With the brilliant Kathleen Stock.

Anyone planning to watch?

(Apologies if there’s an existing thread I’ve missed).

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Rightsraptor · 30/05/2023 20:48

Definitely going to watch it.

PronounsBaby · 30/05/2023 20:53

Genuinely looking forward to it!

rubyslippers · 30/05/2023 20:53

Yep!

MouseMinge · 30/05/2023 20:57

I only found out about it yesterday - thank you terfy Twitter bubble! - and can't wait to watch it. It seems that some of those on TRSOH who took part in the programme are now seriously regretting it because it's not all about them and not totally on their side. I think it will be very balanced, I'm sure I might disagree with some of it, and more interesting and intelligent than anything coming from the TRAs.

chouxchoux · 30/05/2023 21:00

With this on later, the Innocent smoothies Twitter fiasco, and the silly protester at Kathleen’s Oxford Union talk, I have a feeling a lot of people are going to be peaked today!

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Rightsraptor · 30/05/2023 21:05

I think I saw Sonia Sodha on Twitter saying it was good & also balanced

PronounsBaby · 30/05/2023 21:06

Speaking of the Oxford protester, why is twitter assuming her their mum is a terf? Also is there a way to watch the debate? Was it recorded? (Sorry if this is being discussed elsewhere)

MouseMinge · 30/05/2023 21:17

Innocent Smoothies? I went to have a look and they're saying they've deleted a tweet. Was it, trying to figure out from replies, something to do with them giving support to Mermaid?

chouxchoux · 30/05/2023 21:20

yep, exactly that @MouseMinge! They posted drivel “from the legends at Mermaid” about inclusive language around gender. It’s as bad as it sounds. May have been preserved on the other thread…

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TastesLikeStrawberriesOnASummerEvening · 30/05/2023 21:22

Yes.

MouseMinge · 30/05/2023 21:25

Ah! I found a thread on here about it. Monumental idiocy from their PR department. If you're going to go big on a company/charity, probably best to give a couple of minutes to a Google search to find out if that's a good idea. A good example of how to completely screw yourself with one virtue signalling corporate tweet.

RealityFan · 30/05/2023 21:42

The protestor who's glued their delicate digits to the floor, or whatever. Simple solution that will ensure no other self-obsessed snowflakes do the same in future.

Answers on the back of a brown envelope.

PriOn1 · 30/05/2023 21:52

RealityFan · 30/05/2023 21:42

The protestor who's glued their delicate digits to the floor, or whatever. Simple solution that will ensure no other self-obsessed snowflakes do the same in future.

Answers on the back of a brown envelope.

I vote for leaving them there and moving the meeting to a different room so they can’t disrupt.

AutumnCrow · 30/05/2023 22:07

This is looking promising.

RealityFan · 30/05/2023 22:07

PriOn1 · 30/05/2023 21:52

I vote for leaving them there and moving the meeting to a different room so they can’t disrupt.

My suggestion is much quicker, lol

However it seems like Riz is pretty shit at this glueing malarkey, maybe something to do with generally being useless, and has now departed the scene.

You just can't get the staff.

Helleofabore · 30/05/2023 22:11

10 mins in and this shows how many protests there have been.

Motorina · 30/05/2023 22:13

Yes, agreed. And the contrast between Katy and the black masked eejits who claim to be protesting on her behalf couldn't be starker.

JoanOgden · 30/05/2023 22:13

We're only 12 mins and there have already been 89 shots of Kathleen Stock staring into the middle distance. This is my dream TV programme Grin

ArabeIIaScott · 30/05/2023 22:17

Watching it now - missed the beginning.

Nice production values.

chouxchoux · 30/05/2023 22:19

Me too, @JoanOgden! She is a phenomenally striking woman.

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Helleofabore · 30/05/2023 22:19

Why do female trans people think their voices pass?

dapsnotplimsolls · 30/05/2023 22:19

I wonder if there'll be any mention of AGP.

Rightsraptor · 30/05/2023 22:19

An awful lot of TWAW/TMAM/NB are valid going on. Can't they think of other mantras? But already so little in the way of real substance.

soddingspiderseason · 30/05/2023 22:20

Have just shouted my first expletive. Kathleen Stock saying eminently sensible things. The 'other side' not so much.

Datun · 30/05/2023 22:20

dapsnotplimsolls · 30/05/2023 22:19

I wonder if there'll be any mention of AGP.

It's absolutely pivotal. But still so taboo unfortunately.

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