Gender Wars - Channel 4 - 10pm tonight

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With the brilliant Kathleen Stock.

Anyone planning to watch?

(Apologies if there’s an existing thread I’ve missed).

She'd looked into the great blue yonder when Ed Balls "interviewed" her. That great blue yonder being the space between his ears.

Whenever I’ve seen Katy Jon they have always been a sensible voice.

I love 'non binary identities are non binary'. It's the worst slogan in the world. Could they really not come up with something a bit more punchy?

At least TWAW and TMAM are kind of breathtaking in their batshit audacity.

The poor wee nonbinaries just get a limp tautology.

Male violence getting mentioned. This is good.

There is no space between his ears. You need a breadknife to prise his ears apart.

Wow, I think that's the first time I've heard a transwoman acknowledge that their voice/presence could alarm or frighten a woman.

Oh good. The urinary leash that kept women at home for centuries has now been raised.

Nice to have a moderate voice in Katy Jon Went (who has a lovely cat).

Dr Finn taking the Scottish Gov line that 'abusive men don't need to transition'.

Perhaps not, Dr Finn. But some do. As we've seen.

Yes, I found that incredibly striking.

Remarkable that they have shown the women protesting and how different it is to the extreme TRAs.

No idea but I've just looked at her dad's Twitter & he's a full-time XR protestor who likes to sail his boat around the Greek islands when he's not up before the beak for chucking red paint about.
You really couldn't make these people up.

I thought this. The transwoman mentioned going home from the pub because there were no gender neutral toilets, completely failing to recognise that there are many, more women who can’t use mixed sex toilets and will be limited in how they engage in public life.

None of the trans women sound like a woman
they're also good at mansplaining

I wonder if they needed to explain the basics a bit more at the beginning? I think some might still watch it and not quite get the issue.

I assume the producers couldn't find any balaclava nutters.

Ams the point being that there is no transition necessary. There is no criteria.

Also, I'm not sure people are going to buy the fact that they had to go all the way home to find a gender neutral toilet. There are dozens of them around. Should've popped into the pub next door.

All the more reason to campaign for more of them, I should imagine.

How remarkable that there are trans people sitting there marveling at how it got so controversial? Why won’t women let us in the toilet?

ummmm? Have they ever even bothered to listen? Or do they only listen to their nice women mates, the ones who tell them how only haters object.

Who knew grifting could be so tiring? Sail about the Med, get a nice tan, quaff some Sangria'n'Paella, pop back to Blighty for a bit of Argy Bargy, egg on your daughter to be a similar irritant in public, pop back to the Med
...wash/rinse/repeat...

I'm really enjoying it so far. I'm biased, but I think it is doing a good job of showing both sides.

Katy Jon has rather more than one cat @JoanOgden. A whole staircase full.

Dr Finn missing the point.

Old generations would have liked to too. We're rying to get rid of stereotypes and then there'd be less nee to trans at all.

they certainly seem to have found several reasonable, calm sounding trans rights advocates.

Will, Kass and Lily (Cambridge, Breaking Boundaries College) will be unpaid interning at the BBC shortly. I can feel it in my waters.