Eddie Izzard interview - one of the stupidest things I’ve ever read

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https://www.theguardian.com/stage/2023/apr/26/suzy-eddie-izzard-dickens-great-expectations-hamlet

Uses she/her throughout, ‘one woman show’ etc etc - calling anyone who disagrees that TWAW ‘fascists’.

Every time I think I’m inured to this rubbish I read or see something that makes me despair. What a pathetic, preening liar he is.

The fact that someone has a different opinion from you does not make them stupid.

I remember listening to that incident when Radio 4 serialised it. IIRC Izzard himself was the reader.

And I remember thinking at the time 'I very much doubt this incident happened quite like that'.

Teenage girls were interlopers, in the women's toilet? Or - the middle aged male was the interloper?

https://twitter.com/guardian/status/1651271610706411534

The Guardian's tweet is not getting the respect I expected, tbh.

It says in the first paragraph that Izzard is gender fluid, so why is the article so insistent on calling h** a woman? That's probably some kind of phobic.

Ha ha ha ha, oh my goodness, laughed out loud at the tweet responses and scared the dog!!

And "Eddie just wanted privacy and didn’t expect to find the girls there." What you say?? In a women's toilet Eddie was surprised by all the females? Really?

That's some kinda special victim blaming there, Catten. Wow.

He’s not stupid because I disagree with him.

He’s stupid because he’s stupid.

He's an interesting case. Was never quite my cup of tea even though I was a massive comedy fan back in the day (he always came across massively self satisfied and I preferred the introverted neurotics), but I respected his "I'm a bloke and I'll wear what I want thanks" schtick. There was something about it which rang authentic and subversive, and a little melancholy, too. Even though he claimed to be having a laugh he was very visibly alone in his space, not part of a scene that all dressed like that, which I felt like must have taken a lot of guts.

But what seemed brave, genuine and human when he did it very consciously trying to increase the space in which to be a man, becomes power mad, delusional and deeply unlikeable when he tries to falsely move the boundaries of what it means to be a woman.

Gives a while new dimension to "mad cat lady"

I think the Guardian's story is sadder than Izzard's. At least Eddie will always have the Death Star Canteen.

I don’t think I’ve ever seen so many she/her pronouns shoehorned into an article before, it feels like The Guardian is gaslighting its readers and thumbing its nose at GC feminists.

Does Eddie really need that much validation now, after wearing dresses and make-up for years without making a song and dance about it?

Didn’t he recently say he was ok with he/him pronouns anyway despite being in ‘girl mode’? The Guardian has really lost the plot.

I'm sure Eddie has garnered legions of brand-new fans and followers of late which, let's face it, is the entire point. Narcissistic show-offs don't stop being narcissistic show-offs just because they're ageing, they have to do ever-more outrageously narcissistic show-off things to remain, in their own heads at least, just as important as they've ever been.

I suppose the only surprise, for me as a one-time enjoyer of his comedy output, is that Eddie Izzard is actually quite boringly unimaginative, isn't being 'outrageous', and has clearly run right out of ideas as to how to remain creatively relevant. He's no more 'trans' than I'm an Olympic-class cross-country skier or the Duchess of Devonshire - he's desperately trying to stay 'famous' because being anything less than continually being noticed and commented upon for the way he looks or the things he says is, for people like him, worse than anything else he can imagine.

To be honest , it is mental illness. And I’m sorry for him.

This is very well put.

Presumably being a bog standard gay man just isn't shocking and different anymore so these attention seeking types have to crank it up a bit. They aren't just gay . Oh no far too mainstream. Now they're gender fluid, non binary she/ he/ they/ them/xi/ xim. On Monday I'm Suzy and wear a dress. On Tuesday I'm Eddie just to keep you on your toes ( and give myself the opportunity to be offended when you use the wrong pronouns because, although I was she yesterday today I am they).Absolute bullshit

what seemed brave, genuine and human when he did it very consciously trying to increase the space in which to be a man, becomes power mad, delusional and deeply unlikeable when he tries to falsely move the boundaries of what it means to be a woman.

Beautifully summarised

Mental illness , or opportunistic bandwagon riding? Or some combination thereof?

Either way , the guardian giving such credence to this nonsense is a horrible assault on women's rights and women's spaces

Fair point

He goes into women's single sex spaces. I couldn't give a shiny shit about him or what causes him to pretend to be in girl mode whenever his need for validation needs a boost

Is this a Sleazy Lizard thread!

But what seemed brave, genuine and human when he did it very consciously trying to increase the space in which to be a man, becomes power mad, delusional and deeply unlikeable when he tries to falsely move the boundaries of what it means to be a woman.

Exactly this!

To be clear, I’m not agreeing with Eddie’s framing of the girls as interlopers. But I thought it was revealing.

Also just here to requote this fantastic summary:

what seemed brave, genuine and human when he did it very consciously trying to increase the space in which to be a man, becomes power mad, delusional and deeply unlikeable when he tries to falsely move the boundaries of what it means to be a woman

Now you can see gifs...

So Izzard was surprised to see some girls in a female toilet. That takes some doing, and even more believing.