Kemi is on the case!

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www.thetimes.co.uk/article/32012712-d2ef-11ed-b1cd-5223fe349502?shareToken=f8d230bb699c280b7ebafca5e872e305

Go Kemi Go Kemi

Fantastic!!

Praying this gets traction. It could eliminate a lot of the gaslighting and backlash that biological women get for talking about their genuine and real concerns.

Well I didn’t expect this

The EHRC letter is linked in this thread. https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4778005-ea-petition-ehrc-are-in-favour-of-reviewing-the-definition-of-sex

I see the usual TRAs are having a meltdown over this.

I am SO happy. Go Kemi!!!

I do think it could be possible to prevent transwomen losing rights around discrimination and equal pay if the act was tweaked carefully ( eg for equal pay both female only and grc could be identified as being expected to be treated fairly

Sticking two fingers up at Kier, wonderful!

Oh this is fantastic. Well done Kemi 👏

They would still be able to argue discrimination on the grounds of gender reassignment. However, as a male their pay comparator would be a female not another male. Trans men on the other hand would get a male comparator. That may well be a fairer outcome unless you think trans women are more likely to be disadvantaged than trans men?

Go Kemi! Goddess!
She fecking knows what a woman is!
Keir you are pathetic

One lawyer has pointed out that they would still protected if they were paid less because they were assumed to be female (unlikely) anyway. They would also still have protection using GR characteristic.

That would be a great way forward. I think the Tories appointed Baroness Falkner to the EHRC in the hope that she would roll back some of the 'trans overreach'. EHRC laughably did used to be Stonewall members after all along with all the other Government quangos and departments.

It is common sense that biological women and transmen are viewed as the same sex and that biological men and transwomen are viewed as the same sex.
Pretending it is otherwise is what has led to so much confusion and deliberate obfuscation.

Yep totally pathetic and unable to read the room so he must be a true trans ally.

I don't see why, though. Those laws were introduced specifically because women are disadvantaged by their biology; to include males in them would make a mockery of them.

Keep going Kemi

Consider and go for it

I fully support Kemi- hope she makes progress with this x

👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 Kemi

Quite.

Especially as transmen will still
need the workplace protections of sex, either in terms of protective equipment and clothing (sized for the female body) and some will need maternity rights too.

This would effectively clarify things back to where the vast majority of people already thought they were, until the debacle in Scotland opened people's eyes to the reality of self ID. I hope this happens. Labour would then have to justify any future changes.

Does Kemi stand up for all women including refugees, single mothers, homeless women? The Tories are gaslighting feminists, throwing us red meat while ignoring urgent and pressing issues that affect women every day. They don't care about women or anyone who's not privileged, but let's keep clapping our hands because they "know what a woman is", eh?
They are vile.

This would protect the sex class women, groups such as homosexuals, freedom of association, hospital wards, etc. It would then be possible to look at individual information in the areas raised that might affect TW to specifically manage those situations.

@Rainbowshit the Trans army & Panti Piss are going apeshit in Ireland too😂 C'mon UK you don't want to end up like your Irish neighbours.

Unfair pay is mostly related to maternity and pregnancy. It mostly kicks in for women after they've had kids and there is also an element of women who may become pregnant being discriminated on that basis. None of which apply to transwomen.

However, everyone should have a right to fair pay and I'm sure the gender reassignment characteristic would apply if a man was paid more than an transwoman in the same job.