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Anatomy of the Near Murder of Kellie-Jay Keen

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ILikeDungs · 03/04/2023 09:56

" The leaps that Newshub made from Keen’s pro-woman and child safeguarding activism to associating her with neo-Nazis merely continued the execution of a draught already established from 2018 where socfems have made similar accusations."

https://savageminds.substack.com/p/anatomy-of-the-near-murder-of-kellie?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=65949&post_id=112245546&isFreemail=true&utm_medium=email

Anatomy of the Near Murder of Kellie-Jay Keen

How Legacy Media and Purity Feminists Created the Blueprint for the Auckland Mobs

https://savageminds.substack.com/p/anatomy-of-the-near-murder-of-kellie?isFreemail=true&post_id=112245546&publication_id=65949

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MrsOvertonsWindow · 03/04/2023 10:46

That's a detailed analysis of so much that's been happening. And some of this has of course taken place on Mumsnet with some of those cited in the article using this board as a platform to attack KJK.

It's a long and rather depressing read - I admire some of these women while being saddened by how they behave at times.

CryptoFascistMadameCholet · 03/04/2023 10:48

It’s good to see it all laid out like that.

An article to bookmark and repost whenever another ‘I saw Goody Posie dancing with the devil’ thread pops up.

Thanks Julian!

ILikeDungs · 03/04/2023 10:49

Same here. A long, forensic examination of the monstering of KJK .

What about all those KJK haters here, who spent so many threads and posts explaining just how despicable she is...care to respond?

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CryptoFascistMadameCholet · 03/04/2023 10:52

Worth reading the Heather BE article from last October too (linked in Julian Vigo’s article):

https://savageminds.substack.com/p/policing-adult-human-females

There is a good Savage Minds podcast episode with Julian, Heather and Posie too.

Policing Adult Human Females

Let Women Speak!

https://savageminds.substack.com/p/policing-adult-human-females

QueenHippolyta · 03/04/2023 10:52

Gods, thanks for posting, it was very illuminating. I remember the Heritage event and how Kellie-Jay and Julia Long were misrepresented and castigated by the Left feminists back then.

I see Julie Bindel suddenly woke up to the violence KJ and the women suffered in Australia and New Zealand. She should apologize!

CryptoFascistMadameCholet · 03/04/2023 10:59

I’m horrified that Filia have not issued any statement regarding the assault on KJK in NZ, nor signed the Sex Matters letter.

Perhaps one of the other orgs will now set up an alternative conference event?

FOJN · 03/04/2023 11:08

I just came to see if this had been posted.

It's a very thorough article. It covers some things I didn't know about. The extent of the character assassination of KJK's is staggering, imagine what the women participating could accomplish if they used their knowledge, expertise and redirected energy to benefit the women they claim to be fighting for.

I thought she did a good job of explaining how the negligence of the left creates space for the likes of Tommy Robinson.

ILikeDungs · 03/04/2023 11:16

imagine what the women participating could accomplish if they used their knowledge, expertise and redirected energy to benefit the women they claim to be fighting for.

Absolutely.

Again I ask: Posie-haters, do come and explain how your actions were laudable or your accusations had foundation. How you championed the rights of women by lying about KJK.

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Florissante · 03/04/2023 11:23

Posie is a woman of exceptional courage and vision.

AlisonDonut · 03/04/2023 11:32

I've always said they hate her because she says in 3 words what they spend years and thousands of words trying to say.

They must be seething now that everyone knows who she is.

What a shame. 😂

Clymene · 03/04/2023 11:39

CryptoFascistMadameCholet · 03/04/2023 10:59

I’m horrified that Filia have not issued any statement regarding the assault on KJK in NZ, nor signed the Sex Matters letter.

Perhaps one of the other orgs will now set up an alternative conference event?

There's no way they will since they made Heuchan a trustee.

QueenHippolyta · 03/04/2023 11:56

It was Claire Heuchan's writings years ago that helped me to understand what was happening. I really appreciated her but I disagree with her militancy and there seems to be a real dollop of lesbian hate (Bindel too) for feminine looking het SAHMs. As a lesbian I find it awful and not what Dworkin would do!

circleback · 03/04/2023 12:00

I’m not on Twitter so I don’t keep up with the fighting and didn’t realise the extent of it all. It’s a great article. I too am shocked at Filia.

Boiledbeetle · 03/04/2023 13:01

CryptoFascistMadameCholet · 03/04/2023 10:48

It’s good to see it all laid out like that.

An article to bookmark and repost whenever another ‘I saw Goody Posie dancing with the devil’ thread pops up.

Thanks Julian!

I foresee this being linked to many many times in future threads!

DerekFaker · 03/04/2023 13:37

QueenHippolyta · 03/04/2023 10:52

Gods, thanks for posting, it was very illuminating. I remember the Heritage event and how Kellie-Jay and Julia Long were misrepresented and castigated by the Left feminists back then.

I see Julie Bindel suddenly woke up to the violence KJ and the women suffered in Australia and New Zealand. She should apologize!

I still have a modicum of respect for Julie because she spoke at very early on, and she actually gets tangible stuff done.

Did she actually name KJK/the group? Because last time she didnt,which was really disappointing.

ILikeDungs · 03/04/2023 13:41

DerekFaker · 03/04/2023 13:37

I still have a modicum of respect for Julie because she spoke at very early on, and she actually gets tangible stuff done.

Did she actually name KJK/the group? Because last time she didnt,which was really disappointing.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/03/30/posie-parker-extreme-trans-activists-intimidation-debate/

As Posie Parker and I have learnt, extreme trans activists prefer intimidation to reason

I have been harassed, picketed, slandered, and threatened with rape and death for standing up for women’s rights

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/03/30/posie-parker-extreme-trans-activists-intimidation-debate

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MishyJDI · 03/04/2023 13:43

My god. Near-murder. Talk about hyperbole.

Far as I am aware it was tomato soup or juice or something.

As for KJK. She put herself in that place, where her rhetoric was going to be protested. Who does that?

Im with Billy Bragg, If your ideology is attracting Nazis to your events - well you may want to reflect on why that is.

I don't see any evidence of KJK being near-murdered. That is ridiculous. But hey, it makes a good story.

UtopiaPlanitia · 03/04/2023 13:43

Just finished reading it and found it greatly illuminating and quite shocking at how much effort has been put into trashing KJK over the years - I thought I knew all about it but I have learned about things I’d somehow missed.

Two excerpts from the article that I thought were very perceptive:

'Until the purity feminists of the left cease maligning Keen and other women who do not present the “right optic” or political class and until self-appointed dictators stop emerging from within feminist circles, women’s rights will never get a fair shake in legacy media.'

'The ultimate paradox about Keen’s Let Women Speak events is that these forums function to highlight who won’t let women speak. Keen was almost murdered by the mobs in Auckland… Women are watching this. So are men. And they see precisely who is using this political theatre to their advantage as the gender lobby crowd plays DARVO on a global scale.'

FuckNuggets · 03/04/2023 13:45

MishyJDI · 03/04/2023 13:43

My god. Near-murder. Talk about hyperbole.

Far as I am aware it was tomato soup or juice or something.

As for KJK. She put herself in that place, where her rhetoric was going to be protested. Who does that?

Im with Billy Bragg, If your ideology is attracting Nazis to your events - well you may want to reflect on why that is.

I don't see any evidence of KJK being near-murdered. That is ridiculous. But hey, it makes a good story.

You're with Billy Bragg? So you're one of those "sex work is work" "feminists" then are you?

DerekFaker · 03/04/2023 13:47

MishyJDI · 03/04/2023 13:43

My god. Near-murder. Talk about hyperbole.

Far as I am aware it was tomato soup or juice or something.

As for KJK. She put herself in that place, where her rhetoric was going to be protested. Who does that?

Im with Billy Bragg, If your ideology is attracting Nazis to your events - well you may want to reflect on why that is.

I don't see any evidence of KJK being near-murdered. That is ridiculous. But hey, it makes a good story.

Nice victim blaming there.

CryptoFascistMadameCholet · 03/04/2023 13:50

Yes, I deffo feel more charitable towards Julie Bindel due to her many decades long track record and immediate comment on the day of the NZ assault.

Nonetheless, I remain mildly annoyed at how JB can regularly write for the right wing press (inc the Daily Mail) and go on a speaking tour with Alt Right Milo yet never gets even a fraction of the criticism for ‘working with the right’ that SFW and WoLF have had chucked at them.

Personally, I think it’s much better that feminist journalists and writers publish wherever they will get an audience (and a pay packet!) rather than waste their energy on tumbleweed-y blogs and niche intellectually-wanky fanzines, I just find it frustrating that JB is allowed to do these things without being banished from ACTUAL REAL FEMINISM by the Purity PoPo and Other Women get dragged to the Facebook GroupGulags for less.

DeanVolecapeAKAelderberry · 03/04/2023 13:53

New Zealand has the highest level of domestic violence against women in the OECD and it's fascinating and appalling how the language of 'she made me do it' is being deployed not just in NZ but around the TRA world wrt KJK. They hate women so much, and she dared to be visible and audible.

CryptoFascistMadameCholet · 03/04/2023 13:59

I was about to formulate a new version of the pot, kettle, black idiom using the words hyperbole, murder and genocide but then Derek’s comment reminded me that victim blamers don’t deserve engagement so I stopped.

ILikeDungs · 03/04/2023 13:59

From the article: Women are watching this. So are men. And they see precisely who is using this political theatre to their advantage as the gender lobby crowd plays DARVO on a global scale.

Aw, thanks for showing up, Mishy, and thanks for the DARVO.

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ILikeDungs · 03/04/2023 14:01

CryptoFascistMadameCholet · 03/04/2023 13:59

I was about to formulate a new version of the pot, kettle, black idiom using the words hyperbole, murder and genocide but then Derek’s comment reminded me that victim blamers don’t deserve engagement so I stopped.

Quite right. No point engaging. Sitting on hands now.

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