Anatomy of the Near Murder of Kellie-Jay Keen

[ILikeDungs]

" The leaps that Newshub made from Keen’s pro-woman and child safeguarding activism to associating her with neo-Nazis merely continued the execution of a draught already established from 2018 where socfems have made similar accusations."

https://savageminds.substack.com/p/anatomy-of-the-near-murder-of-kellie?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=65949&post_id=112245546&isFreemail=true&utm_medium=email

Of course not, it's the TRAs potentially throwing eggs at the women and becoming violent which is a concern.

It's not something I would joke about.

@SapphosRock

I remember you from when you were a TRA. Then you changed your mind and became GC, which I thought was really admirable. Very few people are capable of publicly changing their minds. But it look like you only became GC to have a chance to take pops at KJK from a different angle.

@Coyoacan I'm open to having my mind changed, that's why I tend to post on the KJK threads. It's not taking a pop at her it's inviting people to prove me wrong if I'm wrong.

I think you are stuck in some of your old patterns of thinking, Sappho.

The angry mob of violent men were the cause of the danger.

Absolutely, she jumped into the pool of sharks.

This only works as an analogy if the sharks had turned up uninvited and insisted on swimming in KJKs hot tub/bath/garden pond.

Human beings are not sharks. Frigging hell.

There is a lot of proof of your previous wrongness in Julian Vigo’s very thorough article, the one at start of this thread.

Isn't it! But they've had lots of practice to be fair!

Basically they're saying Kellie-Jay should have turned down the women's groups invitations to speak in Australia, Tasmania and New Zealand and stayed home fixing tea and keeping her mouth shut.

And that the TRAs have no control over their actions, need take no responsibility and are akin to predators who see humans as food, apparently.

It is horrifying that so many people are prepared to say that male violence is caused by women (or in this case, a woman). That it is an inevitable, unpreventable response to hearing or reading of a woman saying something.

Men evidently having no self-control, no responsibility, no answerability.

And then they wonder why so many of us have started referring to them as The GenderBorg!

From what I've seen on twitter, FB and YouTube, most 'normies' (i.e. people outside of the gender debate) are just as horrified/baffled by this attitude as we are!

That's the analogy - it was KJK's pool, she went for a swim, saw it was full of uninvited sharks and jumped in anyway.

And it's a shit analogy.

Do they apply this to all other situations of violence against women? Do they claim women are raped because they 'asked for it'? beaten because they 'made (their husbands/partners) angry'? harassed because of the way they dress?

I have that feeling of a rock being turned over to show the squirming things crawling underneath. They really do hate women.

Im with Billy Bragg, If your ideology is attracting Nazis to your events - well you may want to reflect on why that is.

Yes, why DID Nazis turn up at a huge Trans Zealot protest? Why do you support them?

Ha, love this. New Zealand PM asked directly what a woman is. Watch him stutter and squirm! This is "The Posie Effect''...
https://twitter.com/ThePosieParker/status/1642812104976596993?s=19

Do you see how easy it is to give vent to silly, dishonest slurs?

Even though the lies about "her rhetoric" are all laid out for everyone one in the thread in this article MishyJDI, you record here your blaming of her for the effect of the lies?

It's never going to register for you obviously, but your terrible values are visible to everyone else.

What worries me in all this is that we are seeing an escalating threat. I think for a long time we have perhaps assumed that when trans activists post tweets about murdering women, raping women, torturing women, that they are exaggerating or simply trying to intimidate women. But I don't think they are, and they are getting bolder. The first physical assault we saw was in 2017 on Maria Maclachlan, a relatively minor assault that gave a foretaste of what was to come. There was an attempted assault on Julie Bindel in Edinburgh, and a lot of aggression towards Helen Steel at the Anarchist Book Fair where she was surrounded by a mob. In other countries, we've seen assaults and also events such as hanging a woman in effigy. In Canada, a man called Chris Elston was attacked and pushed to the ground while police did nothing.

The fracturing of a woman's skull at KJK's Auckland event seems to have been the most serious yet. I think unless the police step up and do their job properly it is only a matter of time before a woman is either killed or experiences life-changing injuries.

You just can't help yourself can you?

She 'put herself in danger'?

Are you serious? That is just the sort of crap women have been fighting for decades.

It's NOT HER FAULT that some rabid violent men and their handmaidens want to do her harm, FFS.

I'm actually really disappointed that JB, JH et al have been so vicious towards KJK. It's so dispiriting.

Is it jealousy, perhaps? Or a dislike of her style - choice of clothes, hair, make-up, etc? I honestly don't understand the level of hostility directed towards a woman fighting for the same cause.