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Keir Starmer - Trans Rights Can't Override Women's Rights

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chevvyroo · 01/04/2023 18:42

In The Times

Seems like he's done a strategic U turn. I bet at least he's glad he can stop dodging the "what is a woman?" question.

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/6841074a-d0a9-11ed-85a8-caaa67d15364?shareToken=2360ce9b239c4fae805bc8364adaea73

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Laladybird · 02/04/2023 19:04

One in a thousand women now have penises. Amazing! Is it something in the drinking water?

Actually, that's a bit disconcerting come to think of it. Am I at risk of growing a penis?

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 02/04/2023 19:19

Laladybird · 02/04/2023 19:04

One in a thousand women now have penises. Amazing! Is it something in the drinking water?

Actually, that's a bit disconcerting come to think of it. Am I at risk of growing a penis?

Ah!

But is it a risk or an opportunity?

RealityFan · 02/04/2023 19:23

Those women are really packing a lot.

NotHavingIt · 02/04/2023 19:26

What is wrong with. a transwoman being a transwoman - why do they have to be 'a woman'? They're not. You have to be male to be a transwoman and many transwomen know this full well, and don't pretend otherwise.

Signalbox · 02/04/2023 19:30

DworkinWasRight · 02/04/2023 18:14

Of course. What’s laughable is that Starmer thinks anyone will read his comment and feel reassured by it.

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I bet he thought really really hard too about how he could phrase it to put all the silly women's minds at rest.

Puffinpanic · 02/04/2023 19:38

ResisterRex · 01/04/2023 18:50

Back to the old "I've decided 99.9% of women are biological", while actively snubbing Rosie Duffield on a visit.

Fuck off.

Thinking biology is still optional to being a woman and being too scared to go near Rosie Duffield shows that he hasn't really changed his position at all.

Puffinpanic · 02/04/2023 19:40

He thinks he's so fucking clever and women are stupid. Piss off you lying arsehole

I absolutely love this comment!

GailBlancheViola · 02/04/2023 19:43

Puffinpanic · 02/04/2023 19:40

He thinks he's so fucking clever and women are stupid. Piss off you lying arsehole

I absolutely love this comment!

Yep, his 'new' (re-worded old) stance is going down like a cup of cold sick.

It's insulting and patronising and blatantly obvious he does think women are stupid.

AutumnCrow · 02/04/2023 19:50

He thinks he's so fucking clever and women are stupid. Piss off you lying arsehole

That made me laugh like a release valve, because it's simple and glorious

667TheNeighbourOfTheBeast · 02/04/2023 19:57

BreadInCaptivity · 01/04/2023 20:43

It's a start.

But it's not enough.

The problem is that the LP are on record committing to self id and some pretty misogynistic quotes from leading members within the PLP.

The continued treatment of Rosie is a massive red flag, including his unwillingness to be seen with her today in Kent.

He needs to learn quickly that there isn't a middle ground here. Trying to find one means alienating everyone.

Ultimately a decision needs to be made. If he wants to be asked to form the next govt he needs to read the room and realise he's going to have to piss some people off.

I couldn’t agree more. I’m a lifelong Labour supporter. I’m gutted tbh.
when I first read the 99.9% headline this morning I thought good he’s learnt from what’s happened in Scotland, I’m a bit slow on the uptake sometimes and it took me a little while to go …hang on a minute! Totally gutted about Sturgeon too coming from a Scottish family and married to a Scot, just cannot think WTF she was thinking. Just too scared to oppose it after what happened yo JK Rowling I guess.

Needmoresleep · 02/04/2023 20:16

I have a bit of a fangirl thing going on for the Mail picture editor.

Keir looks very confused in that photo. Like he has just seen a lady penis.

MarshaBradyo · 02/04/2023 20:19

I was just musing on those images and the picture editor too

SidewaysOtter · 02/04/2023 20:19

Laladybird · 02/04/2023 19:04

One in a thousand women now have penises. Amazing! Is it something in the drinking water?

Actually, that's a bit disconcerting come to think of it. Am I at risk of growing a penis?

Maybe it’s enough just to own a penis? Perhaps some of these women keep them in a box, them having arrived as a freebie or something (“Buy two sweaters, receive a free penis!)…

GailBlancheViola · 02/04/2023 20:23

I can't access the comments @Blackandwhitehorse could you give us a flavour of them, please.

ResisterRex · 02/04/2023 20:23

Needmoresleep · 02/04/2023 20:14

Yes and it does not make for a good tabloid headline.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11929653/Keir-Starmer-stresses-shouldnt-rolling-womens-rights-transgender-debate.html

"Scrambles to" is never a great thing to read if it's about you/your organisation. Just like "under fire" or "beleaguered". Especially if the pictures also convey a certain message.

Blackandwhitehorse · 02/04/2023 20:31

GailBlancheViola · 02/04/2023 20:23

I can't access the comments @Blackandwhitehorse could you give us a flavour of them, please.

Variations on he doesn’t even know what a woman is

GailBlancheViola · 02/04/2023 20:34

Thanks @Blackandwhitehorse

Needmoresleep · 02/04/2023 20:35

What paper does Stevenage woman read? Or is she just too busy dealing with life?

(I started reading the Mail when the children were little. I am a fast reader. I could read the whole thing, and enjoy a cup of coffee, during the 20 minutes of Teletubbies.)

LidlChocolate · 03/04/2023 08:22

Birdsweepsin · 03/04/2023 08:13

Joan Smith tries to make sense of Labour's position....

https://unherd.com/thepost/sorry-keir-starmer-women-dont-have-penises/

https://mobile.twitter.com/rosey_nz/status/1642753873151680514/mediaViewer?currentTweet=1642753873151680514&currentTweetUser=rosey_nz
Hipkins the New Zealand PM was asked about shorty, ancient, backwards, trying to be diwn with the kids- Starmers definition and he was at first lost for words and secondly from his response seems to view Starmer as a pervy bigoted TERF 😆

https://mobile.twitter.com/rosey_nz/status/1642753873151680514/mediaViewer?currentTweet=1642753873151680514&currentTweetUser=rosey_nz

highame · 03/04/2023 08:27

48,000 (0.10%) identified as a trans woman

So what happened to the 'it's only about 5000 transwomen' which had, for many years been thrown into the argument. I suggest that when that 5000 suddenly and unexpectedly became 50,000 there is a problem for women. KS believes he can twist words so I will be going through their manifesto with a fine tooth comb.

Laladybird · 03/04/2023 08:33

LidlChocolate · 03/04/2023 08:22

https://mobile.twitter.com/rosey_nz/status/1642753873151680514/mediaViewer?currentTweet=1642753873151680514&currentTweetUser=rosey_nz
Hipkins the New Zealand PM was asked about shorty, ancient, backwards, trying to be diwn with the kids- Starmers definition and he was at first lost for words and secondly from his response seems to view Starmer as a pervy bigoted TERF 😆

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Journo "what is a woman?"

Politician, stammering "I wasn't expecting that question. I haven't had time to formulate an answer."

I don't know whether to 😂 or 😭