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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Roderic O Gorman (Irish Minister) tweet for trans visibility. Huge backlash in Ireland. Read comments under tweet.

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Leopardprintonsie · 01/04/2023 08:43

https://twitter.com/rodericogorman/status/1641832872771289090?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

Just to add this minister is a gay man but as the comments show he has totally ostracised the gay community who are quite rightly very angry..
Some of the comments are hilarious but none support his trans agenda. Delighted!

https://twitter.com/rodericogorman/status/1641832872771289090?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

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Leopardprintonsie · 03/04/2023 00:53

@DublinFemale Mary Lou has a transgender brother who she fully supports so her motives & feelings are elsewhere.

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Steradent · 03/04/2023 07:50

Jumpersaurus · 02/04/2023 12:28

I honestly have no idea. I had it out with Jack Chambers at my doorstep but he just remained stone faced and didn't give anything away. I'd say he and Leo are waiting to see which way the wind blows.
There are areas that are very left leaning but not in the woke sense, we have some really deprived communities that are preoccupied with crime and cost of living, they don't have the time or energy to think about pronouns.

Dead behind the eyes like that normally means psychopath.

Transparent2 · 03/04/2023 07:55

Steradent · 02/04/2023 10:14

I don't think all people on tbe autistic spectrum need therapy. Looking at Prince Harry therapy has done him no good at all.

The autistic people have been groomed and told their whole life that they are doing everything wrong by the neurotypical herds, the trans activists are doing as told after years of being told to be obedient. I think the last thing they need is some misogynistic therapist manipulation. They need to be left alone and learn to be themselves and people to accept that. Apart from inappropriate behaviour like flashing and kicking type behaviour, they should be tolerated.

I am likely on the spectrum, I had no idea until recently that what I do all the time is called stimming. I noted my daughter did this from birth also. We are fortunate that it's hidden. We squeeze our toes to the ball of the foot regularly. I no longer bother with people and things and stop listening to people telling me I must be like them when most are pure idiots like these bullies.

https://mobile.twitter.com/GoodwinMJ/status/1642267617380519938?cxt=HHwWhMC-gc3swMotAAAA

https://twitter.com/autismsupsoc/status/1642024501537050625

Well said.

Leopardprintonsie · 03/04/2023 08:44

https://www.irishexaminer.com/opinion/ourview/arid-41107879.html

GAA have approved a man to play on the LGFA. This needs to stopped ASAP & a trans league set up. My daughters love GAA but will not play against men

Irish Examiner view: First of the few

The GAA approves its first trans applicant to play with the Ladies Gaelic Football Association

https://www.irishexaminer.com/opinion/ourview/arid-41107879.html

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Steradent · 03/04/2023 09:08

Chesterton - we shall soon be in World in which a man may be howled down for saying that two and two make four, in which people will persecute the heracles of calling a tri-triangle a three sided figure, and hang a man for maddening a mob with the news that grass is green.

St Gregory the Great- A time is coming when men will go mad, and when they see someone who is not mad, they will attack him, saying, 'you are mad, you are not like us"

https://twitter.com/ConceptualJames

https://twitter.com/ThePosieParker/status/1642790482949419008

https://twitter.com/ConceptualJames

Villagetoraiseachild · 03/04/2023 11:33

It's a strange state of affairs this political homelessness.
There's only one woman MP I would wholeheartedly vote for and she's not in my constituency.....

1Week · 03/04/2023 13:30

Leopardprintonsie · 03/04/2023 08:44

https://www.irishexaminer.com/opinion/ourview/arid-41107879.html

GAA have approved a man to play on the LGFA. This needs to stopped ASAP & a trans league set up. My daughters love GAA but will not play against men

Have the LGFA even released sone sort of risk assessment or impact assessment?

We know there was no consultation with players parents or coaches.

UtopiaPlanitia · 03/04/2023 14:18

1Week · 03/04/2023 13:30

Have the LGFA even released sone sort of risk assessment or impact assessment?

We know there was no consultation with players parents or coaches.

I genuinely don’t think the LGFA considers it necessary to carry out a risk assessment because they believe that TWAW and are therefore of no physical danger to female players 😵‍💫😵

Leopardprintonsie · 03/04/2023 14:34

Very sad for all the young girls & all the who have played for years. Hopefully sense will prevail. How is this working with insurance companies?

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StephanieSuperpowers · 03/04/2023 14:34

Well, they're going to see it differently when a woman is permanently disabled and sues the organisation, making them unattractive to insurers.

UtopiaPlanitia · 03/04/2023 14:41

StephanieSuperpowers · 03/04/2023 14:34

Well, they're going to see it differently when a woman is permanently disabled and sues the organisation, making them unattractive to insurers.

It’s desperate that things like that have to happen to make people see sense though. Have they no eyes or brains in their heads to see the dimorphism in human beings?

Male GAA players are very brawny these days, so if any of them transfer over it would be very risky for female players to play against them. Even non-brawny men are physically stronger than most women so I can’t see how the LGFA can come to such a feckin stupid decision, especially when professional sports orgs are now changing their rules & policies in order to protect women playing sport and in line with scientific research eg World Athletics, FINA, World Rugby.

SinnerBoy · 03/04/2023 15:59

*StephanieSuperpowers" · Today 14:34

Well, they're going to see it differently when a woman is permanently disabled and sues the organisation, making them unattractive to insurers.

I truly wish it wasn't so, but I think that it'll take one, maybe more such tragedies to put an end to it. What a damned disgrace it is.

DublinFemale · 03/04/2023 17:20

Women were/are second class citizens in Ireland.

What's a few injured women when men's feelings are involved?

Injuries won't be enough it will take an actual woman stretchered off at Croke Park for this to reverse.

HilarysMantelpiece · 03/04/2023 17:24

Leopardprintonsie · 03/04/2023 08:44

https://www.irishexaminer.com/opinion/ourview/arid-41107879.html

GAA have approved a man to play on the LGFA. This needs to stopped ASAP & a trans league set up. My daughters love GAA but will not play against men

I note the quote about the person who has been approved:
" The club involved,Na Gaeil Aeracha, the first explicitly LGBTQ+ inclusive GAA club, welcomed the milestone decision to approve the application from an Italian trans woman who has played on the team since 2021 ".

Was it the same Italian player who also likes to display their bondage fetish on social media?
Was it the same Italian player who had their picture sent around recently as they attempted to tackle a small round lady player?
🙄🤐🤐 🤐 🤐 🤐🤐 🤐 🤐

Leopardprintonsie · 03/04/2023 17:53

DublinFemale · 03/04/2023 17:20

Women were/are second class citizens in Ireland.

What's a few injured women when men's feelings are involved?

Injuries won't be enough it will take an actual woman stretchered off at Croke Park for this to reverse.

And the govt think Irelend is so progressive, it's the opposite.

You're right it's all about men's feelings. I would feel very vulnerable with a man in the women's swimming changing rooms with me or my daughters. But my feelings as a woman as trivial compared to the men who feel entitled to be there!
The man who hasn't even the balls to remove his penis.

What party is going to put a stop to this primitive, stone age carry on?

A truly progressive country would create a third T gender so we'd have M, F & T. We would coexist much better like this. I don't think anyone who deny Trans their own rights & spaces. But they need to stay the hell out of ours.

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Farmageddon · 03/04/2023 18:08

HilarysMantelpiece · 03/04/2023 17:24

I note the quote about the person who has been approved:
" The club involved,Na Gaeil Aeracha, the first explicitly LGBTQ+ inclusive GAA club, welcomed the milestone decision to approve the application from an Italian trans woman who has played on the team since 2021 ".

Was it the same Italian player who also likes to display their bondage fetish on social media?
Was it the same Italian player who had their picture sent around recently as they attempted to tackle a small round lady player?
🙄🤐🤐 🤐 🤐 🤐🤐 🤐 🤐

FFS this guy again. It would be very helpful if Mr. Receding Hairline's picture went around social media as an example of what happens when you throw women under the bus, just like Barbie K's picture spoke a thousand words.

Leopardprintonsie · 03/04/2023 18:24

Yes I started a thread about him on Aibu last week.. It got the reaction it deserved! That pic has the shock factor like BK.. Roderics tweet has been doing the WhatsApp rounds in the UK & send it onto US friends to get the ball rolling there. The comments are what's intriguing people, I think we can do the same with Guilaboy!

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HilarysMantelpiece · 03/04/2023 19:20

Now, I don't know that the Irish Examiner piece refers to this person.....but how many Italian trans people are playing in ladies Gaelic football?
https://4w.pub/fetish-footballer-policy/

Roderic O Gorman (Irish Minister) tweet for trans visibility. Huge backlash in Ireland. Read comments under tweet.
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Leopardprintonsie · 03/04/2023 20:17

HilarysMantelpiece · 03/04/2023 19:20

Now, I don't know that the Irish Examiner piece refers to this person.....but how many Italian trans people are playing in ladies Gaelic football?
https://4w.pub/fetish-footballer-policy/

This man "Giuila" now has the rights to play on women's sports teams & use women's safe spaces in Ireland. In the article he says he "feels completely comfortable with his genetils". Can we get this article doing the rounds like the others. WhatsApp is best. This is what's happening in Ireland.
Imagine your daughter running into him or one of his tribe in a women's changing room or toilet.
He's comfortable with his genetils good for him. But I'm not comfortable & most women wouldn't be. Why are his feelings more important? It's discrimination against

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Cailleach1 · 03/04/2023 20:30

The trouble is that women and girls probably don't feel comfortable with his genitals in female spaces.

Leopardprintonsie · 03/04/2023 20:43

Well as he says in the article "he's comfortable with his genetils". The Irish government & GAA are also perfectly comfortable with Giulia's genetils. Fuck all the Irish women in their own spades who are very uncomfortable with Giulia's manhood. We just need to put up or shut up... Enough is enough. This article needs to go global. Share, share, share.
Ireland is not progressive, it's oppressive, primitive & completely backwards.

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Beowulfa · 04/04/2023 08:32

Not knowing anything about Gaelic Football I would assume the middle aged balding bloke in that pic is the referee.

Leopardprintonsie · 04/04/2023 08:37

@Beowulfa unfortunately not. "GAA Genetils Giulia" is now a fully fledged member of a ladies football league.

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3timeslucky · 04/04/2023 09:02

Steelasprey · 01/04/2023 13:40

Hi Ruby, I’m Irish, living in Ireland, as left-wing and feminist as can be in our little town (campaigned for Repeal and marriage equality, Educate Together for our un-baptised kids, volunteer for inclusive community organisations, and supporting new community members from Ukraine etc.) and I have very serious concern about gender identity ideology and the serious harms it’s practice is doing in our schools, prisons and to our culture. I find it potentially as dogmatic and damaging as the ideology of the Catholic Church once was.
I’m very worried about the impact of gender identity on women and girls - and I’m not alone. There’s a huge sense of fear around this issue for many of my, similarly left-wing, friends who feel they’re going to be labelled bigots for simply asking questions or raising concerns. You can’t dismiss everyone who raises objections as right wing religious nuts. People may be quiet now but it’s a massive issue that will have a massive impact on the way many people will vote.

This is my experience also.

Trying to dismiss those of us who have concerns about Gender Ideology as right wing, or as having any religious beliefs at all is not borne out by what's happening. There may be people with extreme religious views voicing opposition to GI in schools. But the women I know who are concerned are left-leaning, liberal progressive types - women who knocked on doors during Repeal - women who know what women are, who do not believe we all have a gender identity, have real concerns about children being told that they do, and who want to retain single sex spaces for women, and equality legislation based on sex not gender identity. These women are feminists. And these women also share Ruby's views on BK and the damage that is done to transpeople by refusing to acknowledge that he is one of those men who has accessed women's spaces on foot of our Self-ID legislation and is not in fact trans - a fact acknowledged by the Tavistock when they assessed him. Just because there may be some religious extremists who take issue with GI, do not assume that all those who do are cut from the same cloth.