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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Roderic O Gorman (Irish Minister) tweet for trans visibility. Huge backlash in Ireland. Read comments under tweet.

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Leopardprintonsie · 01/04/2023 08:43

https://twitter.com/rodericogorman/status/1641832872771289090?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

Just to add this minister is a gay man but as the comments show he has totally ostracised the gay community who are quite rightly very angry..
Some of the comments are hilarious but none support his trans agenda. Delighted!

https://twitter.com/rodericogorman/status/1641832872771289090?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

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Steradent · 02/04/2023 10:15

I didn't report your post BTW.

Leopardprintonsie · 02/04/2023 10:25

No sorry, I think that I didn't explain properly. Seradent apologies for any offence caused. What I should have explained more eloquently is that trans groups zone in on children who MAY be neurodivergent, telling them that they don't fit in as they were likely born the wrong sex & it's possible to change that. Suddenly they have lots of "like minded friends". Prounons are the start of it. That's why they want to go to the schools to target these impressionable children who are on the spectrum & those who are not on the spectrum but don't fit in.

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Leopardprintonsie · 02/04/2023 10:32

All I stand by my mental health services opinion. This is so lacking in Ireland even though I think schools are starting to do more mindfulness etc. Social media isn't helping & children as young at 8 now have phones & unlimited Internet access.

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Steradent · 02/04/2023 10:48

Leopardprintonsie · 02/04/2023 10:25

No sorry, I think that I didn't explain properly. Seradent apologies for any offence caused. What I should have explained more eloquently is that trans groups zone in on children who MAY be neurodivergent, telling them that they don't fit in as they were likely born the wrong sex & it's possible to change that. Suddenly they have lots of "like minded friends". Prounons are the start of it. That's why they want to go to the schools to target these impressionable children who are on the spectrum & those who are not on the spectrum but don't fit in.

You didn't offend me and I agree with what you have written in this post. I am dx neurodivergent and have co morbid dx conditions to ASD. I don't need an ASD assessment, I am fine as I am.

Abhannmor · 02/04/2023 10:49

Jumpersaurus · 01/04/2023 22:55

I can't see him getting re-elected. He's in the constituency with Leo, Jack Chambers FF and Paul Donnelly SF. FG and FF will do everything to get a second seat and are both really pushing the profiles of local counsellors, and then obviously SF will probably have learned some lessons on fielding candidates and will try to mop up left votes with nowhere else to go. Roderic had the benefit of repeal last time, but he's going into this election with the Magdalene redress fuck up and then this bullshit.

Interesting. Isn't Chambers regarded as leadership material by FF? That's a tough seat to win.

Yeah SF will probably be the beneficiary of naused off Green voters. Well some of them anyway. What a pity Labour and Socdems bought into this childish nonsense.

Leopardprintonsie · 02/04/2023 10:50

@Steradent yes you are, you sound lovely & I'm so sorry I didn't word my original post properly X

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Steradent · 02/04/2023 11:05

Leopardprintonsie · 02/04/2023 10:32

All I stand by my mental health services opinion. This is so lacking in Ireland even though I think schools are starting to do more mindfulness etc. Social media isn't helping & children as young at 8 now have phones & unlimited Internet access.

Unpopular opinion, I have here I know.

In the UK the bodies for MH are captured by trans activists, the therapists and NHS are in my opinion not as well as they once were, they are gaslighting abusers over biological reality and pushing a Eugenics agenda.

If you look into the men who started MH services they are in my opinion misogynistic and anti Moses and his ten commandments. Let's look at what one of the men who started MH services is against then, as these are the commandments he does not like, it's no wonder therapists ended up affirmation that someone is the opposite sex.

These people are full of Foucault Queer ideology, they are a 'no' from me. This is how I see the anti science, Quazi religion of NHS MH services.

I AM THE LORD THY GOD: THOU SHALT NOT HAVE STRANGE GODS BEFORE ME.
They are their own God, create and worship self.

THOU SHALL NOT TAKE THE NAME OF THE LORD THY GOD IN VAIN.
False oaths, for example breaking the First do no harm, oath!

KEEP THE SABBATH HOLY.

They have holy days of obligation such as Trans day of visibility.

HONOUR THY FATHER AND THY MOTHER.
Changing names given by your parents and schools engaged in such behaviour of minors. Characters like Jeffrey Marsh.

THOU SHALT NOT KILL.
Suicide idealation, Nashville

THOU SHALT NOT COMMIT ADULTERY.
COMMANDS:

Women in NHS hospital wards are to be unconsenting props in a males fethism carried out in public with NHS staff pimping out patients.

The same for children in school

THOU SHALT NOT STEAL.

COMMANDS: respect for the property of rights and others; the paying of just debts; paying just wages to employees; integrity in public office.

FORBIDS: theft; damage to the property of others; not paying just debts; not returning found or borrowed articles; giving unjust measure or weight in selling; not paying just wages; bribery; graft; cheating; fraud; accepting stolen property; not giving an honest day's work for wages received; breach of contract.

THOU SHALT NOT BEAR FALSE WITNESS AGAINST THY NEIGHBOR.

COMMANDS: truthfulness; respect for the good name of other

THOU SHALT NOT COVET THY NEIGHBOR'S WIFE.

Desire to be the opposite sex.

THOU SHALT NOT COVET THY NEIGHBOR'S GOODS.

COMMANDS: respect for the rights of others.

FORBIDS: the desire to take, to keep, or damage the property of others.

Steradent · 02/04/2023 11:06

Leopardprintonsie · 02/04/2023 10:50

@Steradent yes you are, you sound lovely & I'm so sorry I didn't word my original post properly X

I am not and you like the rest of us are imperfect and have your own views.

Jumpersaurus · 02/04/2023 11:19

@Abhannmor Yes Chambers is definitely flagged for leadership, Castleknock is FF's stronghold in Dublin and he was bred for this. And he will do anything to get it - he was vocally anti-repeal and then after the vote he miraculously had a change of heart and is now pro-choice.

Ruth Coppinger and Joan Burton previously held seats so there are a lot of politically homeless people in the area. Soc Dems are non-existent in the area.

spirit20 · 02/04/2023 11:32

For those claiming Peter Tatchell used to condone pedophilia, there are numerous resources out there that show how untrue this is, and how it was certain elements of society trying to claim he was.

Leopardprintonsie · 02/04/2023 11:33

@Jumpersaurus which are the most pro biological women politicians ? Who is going to ensure our rights & spaces are handed back to us without the men in dresses in tow?

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Leopardprintonsie · 02/04/2023 11:35

spirit20 · 02/04/2023 11:32

For those claiming Peter Tatchell used to condone pedophilia, there are numerous resources out there that show how untrue this is, and how it was certain elements of society trying to claim he was.

There is chilling videos of him online saying differently.

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1Week · 02/04/2023 11:37

spirit20 · 02/04/2023 11:32

For those claiming Peter Tatchell used to condone pedophilia, there are numerous resources out there that show how untrue this is, and how it was certain elements of society trying to claim he was.

The source for saying he did is his own words and writings.
The source for saying he didn't is his own backtracking after people got disgusted

Leopardprintonsie · 02/04/2023 11:41

If you look under Rodericks tweet there is a video Peter of discussing something I'd not like to say on here as it's very disturbing . But the video is under the comments of Rodericks tweet for all to see. It's chilling.

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NotBadConsidering · 02/04/2023 11:47

Peter Tatchell in his own words. He states he believes that if an adult man says the “sex” (rape) he had at 9 years old didn’t do him any harm, we should accept that as a viable view point. Most people would think that an adult man rationalising his child sex abuse would be incredibly sad and indicative of the trauma and a trauma response. But Tatchell says it offers a different perspective to the idea that it’s abusive.

Who in their right minds believes this? To most, this is always abuse. Why would someone want to blur this boundary? What sort of people would do such a thing or be interested in blurring that boundary between abuse and consent with children? I have a 9 year old DS and the idea he could consider such an encounter as non-abusive makes me physically ill.

And note that Tatchell is delivering this idea to someone who looks pretty young themselves.

https://mobile.twitter.com/jimburn38339906/status/1543527424599662593/mediaViewer?currentTweet=1543527424599662593&currentTweetUser=jimburn38339906

https://mobile.twitter.com/jimburn38339906/status/1543527424599662593/mediaViewer?currentTweet=1543527424599662593&currentTweetUser=jimburn38339906

Leopardprintonsie · 02/04/2023 11:57

@NotBadConsidering that was the video I was referring to. And actually implying the 9 year old enjoyed the rape. This man is good friend with Minister Roderic O Gormon. Ireland's Minister for CHILDREN.

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Leopardprintonsie · 02/04/2023 11:58

Sorry no it's not the video. There's a different one discussing it under Roderick infamous tweet but again he's being interviewed.

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Rainbowshit · 02/04/2023 12:04

spirit20 · 02/04/2023 11:32

For those claiming Peter Tatchell used to condone pedophilia, there are numerous resources out there that show how untrue this is, and how it was certain elements of society trying to claim he was.

We have all seen the video evidence. We've heard the words directly from his own mouth.

Leopardprintonsie · 02/04/2023 12:07

spirit20 · 02/04/2023 11:32

For those claiming Peter Tatchell used to condone pedophilia, there are numerous resources out there that show how untrue this is, and how it was certain elements of society trying to claim he was.

What do you make it that video & the one under Roderics tweet @spirit20 there is no defending this man.

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Jumpersaurus · 02/04/2023 12:28

Leopardprintonsie · 02/04/2023 11:33

@Jumpersaurus which are the most pro biological women politicians ? Who is going to ensure our rights & spaces are handed back to us without the men in dresses in tow?

I honestly have no idea. I had it out with Jack Chambers at my doorstep but he just remained stone faced and didn't give anything away. I'd say he and Leo are waiting to see which way the wind blows.
There are areas that are very left leaning but not in the woke sense, we have some really deprived communities that are preoccupied with crime and cost of living, they don't have the time or energy to think about pronouns.

Leopardprintonsie · 02/04/2023 12:30

Well as the comments under Roderics post show they have also lost the lgb vote.

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Farmageddon · 02/04/2023 12:44

Leopardprintonsie · 02/04/2023 12:30

Well as the comments under Roderics post show they have also lost the lgb vote.

As much as I would like to think so, I'm not sure how true that is.

From my experience, many LGB people see the trans issue as a community thing that they must support, and R'OG as a prominent gay man is someone they should also support, and may dismiss any criticism of him as simply due to homophobia.

I'm not saying all gay people, of course, but they have been told for several years now that 'their community' is under attack, and many may feel defensive about this. Plenty of well known gay men have come out with the usual 'what's the big deal?' faux naivety, and seem to see this as just feminists kicking up a stink.

Like I say I might be wrong, but I have gotten this vibe before from acquaintances of mine.

AncientBallerina · 02/04/2023 14:33

Abhannmor · 01/04/2023 16:41

Absolutely spot on ! 🎯

These people calling us Nazis and Evangelicals are the Great and Good of so called liberal progressive New Ireland. Powerful and well connected.

They know how to navigate the semi state and charity sector alphabet soup. They spend their days organising petitions and open letters to destroy those who refuse to conform to the new orthodox line. See ' Cop on Comrades ' etc.

They want a 1983 mindset to exist so they can define themselves against it.They want continual plaudits for Equal Marriage and Repeal which couldn't have been won without them. Because Irish people are too thick and right-wing.

They are finally being called out on their privilege. And they don't like it. Things could get very nasty.

Oh my god this 1000 times. The Repeal crowd did my head in with their patronising, head tilt lectures. I had to block several of my relatives on Facebook. No loss really. Yes sweeties I remember the 8th amendment when it happened- I, like most women of my generation have been opposed to it ever since. We don’t need to be ‘educated’. All the same types have now moved onto the trans agenda as their next virtue signal. Give me strength!

Leopardprintonsie · 02/04/2023 21:53

Roderic's tweet doing the rounds in the UK too, my sil in law sent via WhatsApp this morn & a old neighbour who is a mumsnetter also!
Hope it goes global for the comments alone😁

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DublinFemale · 02/04/2023 22:28

The next Irish government is highly unlikely to have the Green Party in it, LV barely scraped in on last election so RO'G will struggle and even if he wins a seat, the greens will be back where they were in 2011 political wilderness.

Any damage RO'G is going to do to women and children needs to be done now.

And sadly he is over the right portfolio, although that portfolio only came into existence in current form in 2021.

I'm in Mary Lous district and there is no one I can think of in this district not all in