WOMEN SPEAKING - Let Women Speak - Australia & NZ tour

[Bosky]

Despite many pleas, the original thread was hijacked by people (mostly from the UK) who displayed ZERO interest in watching, appreciating and discussing the ACTUAL SPEECHES:

Let Women SPeak - Australia & NZ tour

IMHO This was profoundly disrespectful to the OP, @ZombieMumEB, who said she hoped to attend some of the events, to Mumsnetters (particularly Australians and New Zealanders) who wanted to discuss the speeches and to the brave, articulate and impassioned women who gave the speeches.

This thread is to discuss the WOMEN SPEAKING.

Please direct complaints about KJK to one of the perennial "We hate Posie" threads.

If you are a UK socfem with a genuine interest in discussing the socfem approach to re-educating the Labour Party, ie. rather than complaining about KJK, start a new thread. This one is about and for the women in Australia and New Zealand who spoke at the #LetWomenSpeak events

Rather than engage with derailments, can we please agree to report them or ignore them?

Australian live streams

Sydney - Sat 11th

Brisbane - Sun 12th

Perth - Tues 14th (see video for Chapters)
Intro (KJK)
Women in Australia (KJK)
Women Speak (KJK)
Sophia Mormont
The Truth
Grandmother
Trans Activist (KJK)
Trans Rights (KJK)
Change Rooms
Im Australia (KJK + Speaker)
Kelly Jane
Maggie (several Speakers)

Adelaide - Thurs 16th

Melbourne - Sat 18th

Melbourne Post Event Chat
(Moira Deering MP, KJK, Katherine Deves, Angie Jones)

Happy Mothers Day! - Sun 19th (KJK)

New Zealand Mon 20th (KJK update)
(Zip-fiddling misrepresented as "White Supremacy" signal)

Hobart - Tues 21st

Canberra Tomorrow - Wed 22nd (KJK update)

Canberra - Thurs 23rd

New Zealand Here I Come (KJK update)

NZ TBC

Auckland - Sat 25th
Wellington Sun 26th

NZ Free Speech Union - 23 March
Justice Gendall has rejected the application to overrule the decision by Immigration New Zealand to allow entry for @/ThePosieParker into the country.
This is the only right result for a nation that values tolerance, the ability to debate, and free speech.
https://twitter.com/NZFreeSpeech/status/1639045241360781312

ThePosieParker - 24 March
Free speech is not an easy principle to uphold, but it is worth protecting. Without it democracy dies.
https://twitter.com/ThePosieParker/status/1639078293990252547

[Wahinewontwheesht]

I should add, this is in relation to the news coverage ahead of Let Women Speak tour to Auckland.

[Bosky]

Thank heavens for some good news!

Posie Parker bashing victim says no to diversion
14,038 views 20 Jun 2023 #ThePlatformNZ

Sean Plunket interviews the woman who was assaulted in Albert Park during the Posie Parker protest

Then . . .tweet, tweet!!

NZ Media Watch@nzmediawatch

Diversion has been rescinded for the Granny basher.
As "Emily (victim's pseudonym)" stated in her interview with Sean Plunket on The Platform regarding her assault at the Let Women Speak event in Auckland: "Apparently, someone had mixed some papers up... He [the basher] shouldn't have been granted diversion."
2:47 AM · Jun 21, 2023 73.8K Views

https://twitter.com/nz_media_watch/status/1671333985040080901

[Hoardasurass]

Yay I hope he at the very least is named, shamed and jailed now

[SinnerBoy]

Yes, he certainly deserves to be in prison for the level of violence he used on a frail old lady. It's a disgrace that he was offered the let off in the first place.

[fromorbit]

NZ police behaviour at Let Women Speak event to be investigated
https://nznewsessentials.com/nz-police-behaviour-at-let-women-speak-event-to-be-investigated/

Also KJK will be returning to NZ :

 Keen-Minshull revealed she is planning a return to New Zealand. Rubashkyn faces his assault charge at the Auckland District Court on September 20, and Keen-Minshull is organising another Let Women Speak event outside his court hearing. Her visitor’s visa has been approved.

[CryptoFascistMadameCholet]

Excellent.

[RealityFan]

Keep scratching that scab, Kellie.

[Boiledbeetle]

It shouldn't have taken so long! But glad they are finally looking into it!

[Rainbowshit]

Excellent news!

[IwantToRetire]

The police watchdog said it has received 162 complaints about policing of the event; of these, 34 were from people who attended.

The IPCA review will look at police conduct at the protest and planning for the event.
The authority's chair Judge Kenneth Johnston told Morning Report some of the complaints were from people who attended the rally while others were "instigated by media reports".

"They are serious complaints and need to be looked into."

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/494118/ipca-to-probe-scores-of-complaints-stemming-from-posy-parker-s-abandoned-rally

[BoreOfWhabylon]

Little update from KJK
https://www.youtube.com/live/2JqM3kuOmVg?feature=share

[BoreOfWhabylon]

Sorry, wrong thread!

[IwantToRetire]

A young LGBTQ rights activist who was filmed punching a 71-year-old woman in the head during the heated Posie Parker counter-protest in Auckland this year has pleaded guilty to assault.

The 21-year-old Gisborne resident, who continues to have interim name suppression, appeared in Auckland District Court today.

Judge Debra Bell granted defence lawyer Emma Priest’s request to not yet enter a conviction until sentencing. A date for that hearing has not yet been scheduled.

The charge against the then-20-year-old LGBTQ rights activist came after footage circulated widely on Twitter showing a heated meeting of the two groups that day. In the video, he can be seen striking the woman in the face.

Court documents obtained by the Herald today note that the defendant and the victim did not know each other before the raucous gathering.

“About 11am an unknown person began pulling out pegs placed in the ground to separate the two groups,” police noted in the summary of facts for the case. “The group protesting against the speaker Posie Parker pushed over a metal fence and began approaching the group supporting her.

“The victim put her hands out to stop the group and made contact with a female from the opposing group, the same one that had been removing the pegs.”

The defendant approached the victim after noticing the physical contact, court documents state.

“The victim turned towards the defendant who responded by punching the victim three times in the head area,” police noted.

“In explanation, the defendant stated he believed the victim had assaulted a fellow protester and that the victim was going to assault him next.”

Assault carries a maximum possible sentence of one year’s imprisonment. The man’s lawyer indicated today that she intends to seek a discharge without conviction. She also requested a referral for restorative justice, in which the defendant and the victim could meet in a controlled setting if the victim agreed.

The victim told the Herald today she is ready for the meeting.

“I want to meet up and have my say with him, but the thing which sticks in my craw is even before we have had that face-to-face restorative meeting his lawyer is making submissions for dismissal without conviction and permanent name suppression,” she said.

“He hasn’t said sorry and I feel the rights of victims are not upheld.

“It’s like the victim has totally been forgotten out of the justice system.”

The victim said she would look her attacker in the eye and ask him why he attacked an old lady who was not causing him any grief.

“I will let him have his say and then go from there,” she said.

https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/crime/posie-parker-protest-activist-pleads-guilty-to-punching-elderly-woman-at-heated-auckland-trans-rights-protest/

[Helleofabore]

The contortions that the legal system is willing to go through to protect people who cannot control their actions and react with violence.

It sounds absolutely absurd that a 70 year old woman would 'attack him next'.

[IcakethereforeIam]

If I remember correctly the person who was pulling up the pegs was a transwoman. Though it's been a while since I seen the film.

So he's claiming self defence as mitigation 😠

[IwantToRetire]

I dont understand why the defendant is allowed to have their name with held.

Or are you not legally an adult until 21 in NZ? And although that now was 20 at the time.

[AlisonDonut]

@Helleofabore

The contortions that the legal system is willing to go through to protect people who cannot control their actions and react with violence.

It sounds absolutely absurd that a 70 year old woman would 'attack him next'.

She had two bags, one in each hand...how exactly does an older women carrying two bags assault a man who is bigger and stronger than her?

[GwenniMcKinney]

Here she is again speaking with Sean Plunkett on the platform, the only medial that seem to have given any coverage and her a voice.

[Helleofabore]

One of the stewards is now attempting to use public investigative skills to find the identity of the male with gauntlets as she wishes to provide the police with the indentity. Aparently, he is still not identified.

[SinnerBoy]

I'm struggling to see how him breaking the lady's eye socket is simply assault. Do they not have GBH, or an equivalent in New Zealand?

In any case, they seem determined to let the bastard off.

[DewinDwl]

“In explanation, the defendant stated he believed the victim had assaulted a fellow protester and that the victim was going to assault him next.”

It really didn't look like self-defence on the video... at all

[IwantToRetire]

May need its own thread but there will be a let women speak on 20 September in Auckland https://www.standingforwomen.com/event-details/letwomenspeaknzjustice to conincide with soup thrower's court case.

[BezMills]

I will watch that live if it is possible. Witness!

[GwenniMcKinney]

For those who might be interested a forensic explanation of the events in Melbourne that day last March. What I hadn't realized is there was at least 4 other protest groups all in the one area which made the LWS event succeed all the more remarkable. Also what visible is how under resourced by the police it was.

[Helleofabore]

@GwenniMcKinney

For those who might be interested a forensic explanation of the events in Melbourne that day last March. What I hadn't realized is there was at least 4 other protest groups all in the one area which made the LWS event succeed all the more remarkable. Also what visible is how under resourced by the police it was.

This is a good video as it also captured Thomas Sewell stating clearly that he was not there at the event to support the women’s group.

It was widely discussed at the time that a group with the weekly permit to protest was there. They were the earlier megaphone using group discussing drag story time and sex education etc. However, that group was generally ignored by posters who needed to push the incorrect analysis that the neo nazi group was there to support Let Women Speak.

Thanks for posting it.