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They’re not Terfs they are ‘Terds’ Senator Nick McKim announces in Tasmanian Parliament

723 replies

Xoxoxoxoxoxox · 22/03/2023 09:01

I can’t believe the misogyny and hostility towards women.

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Beowulfa · 22/03/2023 10:18

Still laughing at the idea that Australians won't stand for attacks on minorities.

CremeEggQueen · 22/03/2023 10:18

ArabellaScott · 22/03/2023 10:13

Have you listened to the interview with one of the neo-Nazis? They weren't there to support the women's rights campaigners, they were there to attack the trans activists.

Ok, if they weren't there to support then, they still turned up with the same views against trans people as those on your "side" for want of a better expression.
Maybe its just me but if Nazis were turning up at an event I was at and my views on minorities aligned with theirs I wouldn't be comfortable with that at all.

Hepwo · 22/03/2023 10:18

CremeEggQueen · 22/03/2023 10:10

The Neo-nazis did not 'express support'.
They turned up on the same side in agreement with the views.
How is that not expressing support?!

Do you object to their anti peado stance?

Helleofabore · 22/03/2023 10:19

Who are the paedophiles?

Are you serious?

The paedophiles are the paedophiles. Usually male. And I expect that the same % of males in any sub group are paedophiles as in other sub groups.

I am merely using the same logic that you supposedly 'agreed' with that Mishy has positioned. Because that is the outcome of what Mishy has positioned.

SinnerBoy · 22/03/2023 10:20

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ArabellaScott · 22/03/2023 10:20

CremeEggQueen · 22/03/2023 10:18

Ok, if they weren't there to support then, they still turned up with the same views against trans people as those on your "side" for want of a better expression.
Maybe its just me but if Nazis were turning up at an event I was at and my views on minorities aligned with theirs I wouldn't be comfortable with that at all.

I hope you're not a vegetarian, in that case.

Hepwo · 22/03/2023 10:20

CremeEggQueen · 22/03/2023 10:18

Ok, if they weren't there to support then, they still turned up with the same views against trans people as those on your "side" for want of a better expression.
Maybe its just me but if Nazis were turning up at an event I was at and my views on minorities aligned with theirs I wouldn't be comfortable with that at all.

Don't your views align with theirs? mine do. Their only sign was anti peado. You are uncomfortable with being anti peado?

Helleofabore · 22/03/2023 10:22

CremeEggQueen · 22/03/2023 10:18

Ok, if they weren't there to support then, they still turned up with the same views against trans people as those on your "side" for want of a better expression.
Maybe its just me but if Nazis were turning up at an event I was at and my views on minorities aligned with theirs I wouldn't be comfortable with that at all.

How? Please detail your claim here because it simply seems to be repeating misinformation.

What do you think that the Neo-nazis support? and how is this the same as the women speaking ?

Actually lay out your claim in detail. Because currently nothing you have said seems to be based in fact. Just accusations.

SinnerBoy · 22/03/2023 10:22

Helleofabore · Today 10:01"A

Because a 'fair go' also means that the women should have been able to speak without being intimidated and without violence.

No, silly! It means "A fair go for everyone, unless I don't like them." Honestly, didn't you get the message?

heathspeedwell · 22/03/2023 10:22

"Maybe its just me but if Nazis were turning up at an event I was at and my views on minorities aligned with theirs I wouldn't be comfortable with that at all."

@CremeEggQueen are you seriously saying that if you organised a litter picking event and Nazis turned up and your views on the minority who drop litter aligned with theirs then you would be 'uncomfortable'?

Can you not see the massive logic fail in your reasoning?

CremeEggQueen · 22/03/2023 10:23

Hepwo · 22/03/2023 10:20

Don't your views align with theirs? mine do. Their only sign was anti peado. You are uncomfortable with being anti peado?

This is so ridiculous and obtuse I don't even know how to start.

Helleofabore · 22/03/2023 10:24

CremeEggQueen · 22/03/2023 10:18

Ok, if they weren't there to support then, they still turned up with the same views against trans people as those on your "side" for want of a better expression.
Maybe its just me but if Nazis were turning up at an event I was at and my views on minorities aligned with theirs I wouldn't be comfortable with that at all.

Can you also then provide evidence that any of the women speaking were "comfortable" with these men?

Do you actually think that women even knew?

What feminist would be 'comfortable' with a fucking Neo-nazi being close to them?

Do you actually understand the hatred that neo-nazis have for feminists?

Jujuj · 22/03/2023 10:24

Wow…The pile on when someone doesn’t agree with (the collective) you 🫤

ArabellaScott · 22/03/2023 10:24

I don't know why the government bothered with all their attempts at restricting protest.

All anyone needed to do was employ a small group of men who are willing to turn up at events and shout nazi slogans. This will immediately destroy any protest's credibility if they are 'seen at the same protest'. I mean, all those TWAW protesters were 'at the same protest'.

Same logic as when people turn up on here and make posts to attack women for 'being mumsnetters'.

NotBadConsidering · 22/03/2023 10:26

MishyJDI · 22/03/2023 09:52

Oh. And also, let's not forget, his son had been attacked and "dead-named". This was disgusting behaviour.

Why not watch the whole speech to get a context.... Here it is:

https://twitter.com/NickMcKim/status/1638370372432318464

He is calling out disgusting behaviour, that has nothing to do with feminism and advancing women's rights.

He’s been absolutely ratioed! Awesome Aussies standing up for women!

Bunshaped · 22/03/2023 10:26

Jujuj · 22/03/2023 10:24

Wow…The pile on when someone doesn’t agree with (the collective) you 🫤

Objecting to and challenging someone is not a "pile on"

Helleofabore · 22/03/2023 10:26

CremeEggQueen · 22/03/2023 10:23

This is so ridiculous and obtuse I don't even know how to start.

No.

it is using YOUR logic!

If you cannot understand the logic that you have supported in your post 'I agree', then maybe you actually don't agree with Mishy's rather fucked up interpretation of Australian values. Given that Mishy refuses to answer a simple question as to whether they are even and Australian, yet makes such blanket statements across many thread now, maybe you should also research who you are agreeing with.

SinnerBoy · 22/03/2023 10:26

Well, it's nice to know that, if you turn up at someone else's event, you support them. It gladdens me greatly that AntiFa and the trans lot turned up to support SFW.

Great job, guys!

Abhannmor · 22/03/2023 10:26

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 22/03/2023 09:32

Australians and Kiwis generally won't put up with the constant attacks on minorities like that which occurs in the UK. They have a fair go for all attitude

Just not for gender critical women.

Nazis used to show up at animal rights protests years ago. They don't care about animals , just want to annoy Jewish and Muslim ppl.

But nobody thinks the RSPA are fascists. Except Mishy perhaps.

ArabellaScott · 22/03/2023 10:27

Jujuj · 22/03/2023 10:24

Wow…The pile on when someone doesn’t agree with (the collective) you 🫤

There seem to be various posters with different views posting. Who is it you claim is being 'piled on'?

Helleofabore · 22/03/2023 10:27

Jujuj · 22/03/2023 10:24

Wow…The pile on when someone doesn’t agree with (the collective) you 🫤

What.

Asking for explanations and evidence to back up a claim is a 'pile on'?

How do you exist in real life? Do you live in a bubble where no one disagrees with you?

Hepwo · 22/03/2023 10:28

CremeEggQueen · 22/03/2023 10:23

This is so ridiculous and obtuse I don't even know how to start.

It's as clear as day. The Nazis were there with ONE SIGN with their message.

Anti peado.

You are playing shocked here that people align with that message. Or you would rather ignore that message even though it was their only sign and claim something else?

So either you don't think anyone should be anti peado or you just want to malign standing for women because anti peados turned up.

You are the one making shit up.

Helleofabore · 22/03/2023 10:29

SinnerBoy · 22/03/2023 10:26

Well, it's nice to know that, if you turn up at someone else's event, you support them. It gladdens me greatly that AntiFa and the trans lot turned up to support SFW.

Great job, guys!

I know!

It has been mind blowing the lack of critical thinking of all these posters who simply repeat this crap.

They never stop and think... oh... hey... that logically seems to not quite work the way I expected.

CremeEggQueen · 22/03/2023 10:32

are you seriously saying that if you organised a litter picking event and Nazis turned up and your views on the minority who drop litter aligned with theirs then you would be 'uncomfortable'?

They turned up at a rally speaking about trans issues (yes, yes, women's issues before anyone fixates on my wording) and they share the same viewpoint as those speaking against trans people.
*That's what my post was talking about.
That's not even anything like "Nazis turned up to do a litter pick at my local park so that makes me uncomfortable as they hold views on minorities I don't!"
They'd just be there to help litter pick even though their views on minorities I would find vile
Their views wouldn't come into a litter pick (hopefully!)
Not remotely the same as turning up to a rally with the same views as someone on minorities where that minority is being spoken about/discussed etc
Except I think you know that?! I hope you do anyway!

Helleofabore · 22/03/2023 10:32

So @MishyJDI

Do you or do you not support the protection of children against paedophiles?

Or was this just another one of you ill conceived posts with a bit of appeal to some kind of cultural expertise on Australia that you seem to be trying to claim?