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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Ben Cooper QC - Lawyer of the Week (in the Times)

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Justme56 · 04/08/2022 08:13

Sorry I can't share the article, but liked this:

What is the funniest thing that has happened in your job?

As a result of my work in this area, apparently becoming an object of admiration on Mumsnet [the Internet parents' forum] - improbable in many ways.

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TheBiologyStupid · 14/09/2022 11:36

Yes, good that Social Work England has escaped the clutches of Stonewall, but it really is a case of "out of the frying pan into the fire" after the batshit performance of their new provider's CEO on the witness stand the other day.

Ben is sadly missed, but AK and KM are doing a great job, though.

Helleofabore · 15/09/2022 17:45

Hearach15 · 20/08/2022 12:42

Are you straight?

While I was reading the transcript tweets from Paul Roberts in the LGB Alliance case, I thought of this post.

How wonderful.

According to Paul Roberts( CEO of LGBT+ Consortium), there is now no point in any definition of any sexual orientation because it is purely self identity based.

So... All these posts from Hearache about who is straight, the gatekeeping of who should and should not post on threads about LGB topics, all should be considered super intolerant and now should be considered hate if I extrapolate out his view here.

All because Stonewall has forceably changed the definition of any sexual orientation to include gender, making any definition meaningless.

Helleofabore · 15/09/2022 17:55

And speaking of the 'tolerance' of the LGBT community that has been encouraged by Stonewall and 'no debate', this is chilling reading. Of course, by 'tolerance' I am meaning that as I pointed out to some posters on other threads, there is very little tolerance within some LGBT+ communities for those who disagree with them.

www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4634273-times-article-on-academia?page=1

About this article

web.archive.org/web/20220915033149/www.timeshighereducation.com/depth/researchers-are-wounded-academias-gender-wars

From someone who took a balanced approach to discovering the reality of tolerance within academia. The ramifications of this article will be felt quite widely I can imagine.

This is what Allison Bailey has been fighting against, and Ben Cooper most definitely played his part in this.

And since some posters will not accept the words of someone they seem ready to discredit because 'not LGBT', maybe this thread from a transitioned female will help to show just how concerned some trans people are to be seen as never deviating from the dictated line.

www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4633855-im-trans-and-i-fully-support-jkr-and-disagree-with-the-eradication-of-womens-spaces?page=3&reply=120020151

It is all connected. It is showing just how false that narrative of 'tolerance' is and just how authoritarian some LGBT+ communities have become - even within the community itself.

If I was posting on forums crowing at how tolerant, loving and how much solidarity there was, by this stage I would be trying to look well beneath the superficial.

Helleofabore · 20/09/2022 09:51

Breaking news!

Ben Cooper and his support wren will be back!!!

Allison has appealed against Stonewall not being held to account. It will be an interesting decision regarding setting precedence, ultimately I can see why they were not held to account before, but this will be an interesting case in all respects.

twitter.com/bluskyeallison/status/1572133035335716865?s=46&t=C863kz3zazrePN0-PcieLg

But surely Ben Cooper will be back and we can watch it all again!!!

This time without the GCC crew distraction!

Helleofabore · 20/09/2022 09:59

By the way, anyone seen Stonewall call out this assault over the weekend? I mean, it was in the USA I know, but Fred Sargeant … part of the original Stonewall riot has been assaulted surrounded by pink and blue trans flags!

www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4637325-fred-sargeant-assaulted

A 70 year old gay man, a pioneer of gay rights and one of the witnesses as to who really threw the first brick and who was even there!!, who relies on a walking stick, pushed over and assaulted surrounded by pink and blue flags! With others not helping him up but filming him!

This was a GREAT win for Stonewall, right there! You cannot get a better pictorial depiction of what is happening at the moment than that image.

Winning!!!!

AlisonDonut · 20/09/2022 10:07

Helleofabore · 20/09/2022 09:51

Breaking news!

Ben Cooper and his support wren will be back!!!

Allison has appealed against Stonewall not being held to account. It will be an interesting decision regarding setting precedence, ultimately I can see why they were not held to account before, but this will be an interesting case in all respects.

twitter.com/bluskyeallison/status/1572133035335716865?s=46&t=C863kz3zazrePN0-PcieLg

But surely Ben Cooper will be back and we can watch it all again!!!

This time without the GCC crew distraction!

Oh wow, missed this yesterday.

Helleofabore · 20/09/2022 10:09

Well, I am assuming AB will still have BC as her KC…

IcakethereforeIam · 20/09/2022 10:16

AOK!

Helleofabore · 28/09/2022 09:48

Just adding to the other theme of this thread about Stonewall's 'winning' reputation.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11255977/Sussex-Police-issue-humiliating-apology-Home-Secretary-blasted-policing-pronouns.html

I think that Sussex Police will certainly feel that maybe they should not take their Stonewall Top 100 employer award quite so seriously after this week. They have absolutely shown that they are not above threatening people, particularly women for calling out the horror of being forced to use the chosen pronouns for a convicted child sex offender.

It would be even better if Sussex Police got in a new and unbiased social media team too, and remove the zealot who posted:

Hi, you can familiarise yourself with what is regarding as hate on our website here: orlo.uk/k3sOL. If you have gender critical views you wish to express this can be done on other platforms or your own page, not targeted at an individual. Sussex Police

Yes.... another winning move that has come from Stonewall guidance.

Helleofabore · 28/09/2022 09:49

Plus it has been reported that this individual will be housed in a female prison, and one with mothers and children.

Oh yes... Stonewall is definitely getting their reputation polished for their wonderfully good works for those of the female sex.

Helleofabore · 28/09/2022 10:03

And just a couple more:

Primark

www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4641038-woman-walked-in-on-in-primark-changing-room?page=5&reply=120330505

I am quite sure that Primark's reputation is continuing to go down the tubes with their clear negligence while focusing on 'inclusive changing rooms' - something that Stonewall guidance has pushed as a focus. They certainly now have a string of crimes being committed in their changing rooms and supposed 'accidental intrusions' by males.

Stonewall's guidance is great for protecting females.... and aren't females supposedly being considered by Stonewall, under the L and the B letters? No?

Plus: Brighton SFW

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11231853/amp/Fascist-Labour-MPs-aide-screams-father-holding-baby.html

The Fascist baby screamer is another fine example of just who Stonewall supports. As well as the three protesters arrested. And as well as Stonewall allies downplaying a) smoke bombs ( they are theatrical of course, nothing more), one of which hit a woman in the head while she was listening to other women speak and b) a protester who had a bag of knives.

And not a peep from Stonewall about condemning these actions.

Plus: Mermaids

www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4641632-mermaids-sending-free-binders-to-teen-girls?page=5&reply=120314292

I have not seen Stonewall distance themselves from Mermaids on this issue.

PLUS: A consultation by the CPS that includes Sex by deception.

www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4643195-cps-consultation-now-open-consultation-on-the-deception-as-to-gender-section-in-the-rape-and-serious-sexual-offences-rasso-legal-guidance

Anyone having kept up with Stonewall's manifesto would know they have been very clear that they want to remove the potential criminal element for transitioned people to simply never have to disclose their previous sex to their prospective sexual partners.

Morality, eh?

GO STONEWALL!

I can't wait for Allison's appeal. Because there will be SO much stacked up that can be tracked back to Stonewall's influence that without it having to be mentioned in the appeal trial, the media will have a field day. An abundance of news to rehash and lay out in front of the world.

Brilliant stuff! The articles are practically writing themselves.

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