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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Fred Sargeant assaulted

68 replies

chilling19 · 19/09/2022 18:19

It was only a matter of time before this happened.

Blistering piece written by William Ferguson

Post edited by MNHQ

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Olderbadger1 · 19/09/2022 18:30

They are completely out of control. Malicious, self-righteous, kids who weren't even born when Stonewall kicked off. Far right side of history.

Do we know if he's ok?

RhannionKPSS · 19/09/2022 18:31

I hope Fred is ok.
Those bawbags have no respect for anyone

KittenKong · 19/09/2022 18:32

Apparently he’s had a scan and is waiting the results. He’s a 74 year old man who walks with a stick for gods sake. They have everyone don’t they?

utter bastards. I hope they catch them and throw the book at them.

KittenKong · 19/09/2022 18:33

Fred has posted the photo of the man and woman (actual) who attacked him on his Facebook page.

Whatsnewpussyhat · 19/09/2022 18:46

Fucking gobshites.

KittenKong · 19/09/2022 18:48

He’s back home now and pissed off (by the sounds of it). Isn’t he ex police?

Abhannmor · 19/09/2022 19:09

I'm beginning to feel unalloyed hatred for these cretins. Which is not very useful.

Another rage donation to LGB Alliance is coming.

Get well soon Fred 💐

ResisterRex · 19/09/2022 19:11

This is awful news. I hope he recovers well
Flowers

Igmum · 19/09/2022 19:21

Get well soon Fred Flowers more appalling behaviour by the TRAs

TastefulRainbowUnicorn · 19/09/2022 19:33

Multiple people attacking a 70 year old man and pushing him over.

Two grown women shouting at a baby.

And the police won't police them so they feel invincible.

They are narcissists, they are losing their fight, they are escalating the abuse. Unless cops start clamping down hard on TRA crowds, will be murders soon.

rabbitwoman · 19/09/2022 19:40

A podcast I was listening to once explained the notion of 'eustress'.

It's the opposite of distress.

It's where you get away with something, or a certain behaviour, for so long you begin to think you are invincible and your behaviour excelorates.

When you are caught out for your poor behaviour - or arrested and charged - you are utterly indignant because you have absolutely certainty by this point that your poor behaviour is justified.

This sounds familiar. Pushing a 70 year old man, not just any man but a stonewall founder who was at the riots and deserves to be revered, to the floor sounds like what happened to Vito gesualdi and his friend at the Netflix protest.

Shouting at a baby? And thinking you are utterly justified?

Someone will get hurt next.

Abhannmor · 19/09/2022 19:44

Fred is 74. Luckily he seems to be OK. They seem to be getting more vicious alright.

Oddly enough , a friend who lives in the Deep South was considering Vermont because it is so ' liberal'. They elect Bernie Sanders after all.

picklemewalnuts · 19/09/2022 19:45

Disgusting. But it's so obvious now. I'm hoping the better policing at Brighton, and the arrests, is helping with the whole sunlight thing.

For Fred FlowersFlowers
Get well soon.

zen1 · 19/09/2022 20:02

Complete scum. Hope Fred is okay.

Waitwhat23 · 19/09/2022 20:37

This absolutely shocked me when I first saw the early reports on Twitter and the details which have emerged have been even worse - coffee thrown at him, hit on the head from behind and apparently up to 6 people pushing and shoving a 70+ year old man who uses a cane.

Hoping that he's ok.

KittenKong · 19/09/2022 20:46

The #bekind bears can just bigger off. Horrible sexist, homophobic, ageist, lying little bullies.

ArabellaScott · 19/09/2022 22:04

This is awful. Sending my best wishes to Fred.

I don't know quite how anyone can get to the point they think it's okay to attack an older man, or shout at a baby.

Self justification fallacy, self righteousness, dehumanisation, I suppose. We've seen it happen many times before - I just find it so hard to believe these people think they are genuinely on the 'right side' of history.

Thelnebriati · 19/09/2022 22:33

Call it what it is. Trans activists gay bashed a gay rights activist.

Ein · 19/09/2022 23:11

TastefulRainbowUnicorn · 19/09/2022 19:33

Multiple people attacking a 70 year old man and pushing him over.

Two grown women shouting at a baby.

And the police won't police them so they feel invincible.

They are narcissists, they are losing their fight, they are escalating the abuse. Unless cops start clamping down hard on TRA crowds, will be murders soon.

The problem is the police. There have always been people, in every time and place, who want to hit and abuse those weaker than them, whether it’s women, old people, or children. The police are supposed to arrest the attacker. That’s all that keeps it in check.

Transwomen (notice how it’s never transmen) don’t get arrested. They can shout at whom they like, hit whom they like, and the police just Macarena behind them in rainbow lanyards pretending not to see.

So now anyone who wants to have a consequence-free fight can stick on a skirt and make up and it’s like the Monopoly ‘get out of jail free’ card.

What could possibly go wrong with that 🤔

ArcheryAnnie · 19/09/2022 23:17

Jesus fucking christ. Gaybashing someone who was at Stonewall, and thinking themselves righteous. Utter dicks.

Please get better soon, Fred. 🌹

Waitwhat23 · 19/09/2022 23:22

TastefulRainbowUnicorn · 19/09/2022 19:33

Multiple people attacking a 70 year old man and pushing him over.

Two grown women shouting at a baby.

And the police won't police them so they feel invincible.

They are narcissists, they are losing their fight, they are escalating the abuse. Unless cops start clamping down hard on TRA crowds, will be murders soon.

I agree. I've seen an increasing level of posts on other platforms which really come across as (word we're not allowed to use) end of days type behaviour. 'By any means necessary' and 'terfs shouldn't be allowed to exist' are repeated with worrying regularity.

WolverineBluey · 19/09/2022 23:36

So sorry for what happened to Fred and hope he recovers soon. It is disgraceful. Repeating myself here as mentioned this on the other thread but worth pointing out some of Fox Fisher's take on Brighton, justifying this kind of dreadful behaviour. They really do think they are doing nothing wrong:

Some trans supporters made an entrance just in front of the police line, in a black uniform of masks, gloves, hoods and matching flags. This group wear these 'uniforms' to protect themselves and look tougher.

Frustrated angry chants, the theatrics of coloured flares, the ninja style black uniform and the arresting of two trans rights supporters (with three police knocking one small framed person to the ground) is easy to twist in the media as something fearful

mobile.twitter.com/theFoxFisher/status/1571581457310814208

ArcheryAnnie · 19/09/2022 23:57

WolverineBluey · 19/09/2022 23:36

So sorry for what happened to Fred and hope he recovers soon. It is disgraceful. Repeating myself here as mentioned this on the other thread but worth pointing out some of Fox Fisher's take on Brighton, justifying this kind of dreadful behaviour. They really do think they are doing nothing wrong:

Some trans supporters made an entrance just in front of the police line, in a black uniform of masks, gloves, hoods and matching flags. This group wear these 'uniforms' to protect themselves and look tougher.

Frustrated angry chants, the theatrics of coloured flares, the ninja style black uniform and the arresting of two trans rights supporters (with three police knocking one small framed person to the ground) is easy to twist in the media as something fearful

mobile.twitter.com/theFoxFisher/status/1571581457310814208

That's the same Fox Fisher who famously filmed a vlog describing LGB sexuality as a "deviant kind of thing". Fisher would be first in line to protect those who gaybashed Fred.

ArabellaScott · 20/09/2022 08:52

'This group wear these 'uniforms' to protect themselves and look tougher.'

Look tougher? Look more intimidating, you mean, Fox? Yes. They are intimidating. Especially given that they are throwing smoke bombs and other missiles, shouting, and playing noisemakers.

Well done. You are part of a terrorist movement.

mirax · 20/09/2022 11:55

Is Fox Fisher a serving police officer? Someone mentioned that.

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