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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Kemi Badenoch through to next round

1000 replies

InTheCanteen · 13/07/2022 17:24

If you have a Conservative MP and want to protect the rights of women and safeguard children please email them TONIGHT and ask them to support Kemi.

Penny Mordaunt still the bookies favourite (and they aren't often wrong) but we need to let everyone know how dangerous it will be for this woman to become PM; I don't believe she has changed her mind for one moment.

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jgw1 · 21/07/2022 11:25

steamedhamz · 21/07/2022 11:21

Here you go

#Groomed - How Schools Sexualise Your Children

Oh, I had found the right video. I assumed that it was some kind of strange joke as it bears almost no semblance to the reality of PSHE lessons in schools.

Clovefeld · 21/07/2022 11:29

Paul Embery, a left wing trade unionist who's own union made a public statement distancing themselves from his anti-trans comments.

dafunk · 21/07/2022 11:31

jgw1 · 21/07/2022 11:25

Oh, I had found the right video. I assumed that it was some kind of strange joke as it bears almost no semblance to the reality of PSHE lessons in schools.

Are you saying that Posie Parker doesn't know what she's talking about when it comes to protecting children?

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 21/07/2022 11:38

jgw1 · 21/07/2022 11:18

The same person who more recently refused to condemn an endorsement by Tommy Robinson. But they are a has-been so lets not worry about them.

Heavens to fucking murgatroyd

WHO DO YOU FUCKING MEAN?

having a conversation with you is nigh on impossible

jgw1 · 21/07/2022 11:42

dafunk · 21/07/2022 11:31

Are you saying that Posie Parker doesn't know what she's talking about when it comes to protecting children?

I am saying that the video does not in anyway portray the reality of what happens in PSHE lessons in schools. In fact it appears those in the video have little to no knowledge of schools and PSHE.

jgw1 · 21/07/2022 11:45

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 21/07/2022 11:38

Heavens to fucking murgatroyd

WHO DO YOU FUCKING MEAN?

having a conversation with you is nigh on impossible

Sorry, I assumed it was widely known that Boris Johnson condemned his endorsement by the BNP when he was running to be Mayor of London, but then refused to condemn a similar endorsement by Tommy Robinson during the 2019 General Election campaign. I guess not everyone follows the lies and distortions of our current Prime Minister as closely as I do.

SpindleInTheWind · 21/07/2022 11:45

jgw1 · 21/07/2022 11:42

I am saying that the video does not in anyway portray the reality of what happens in PSHE lessons in schools. In fact it appears those in the video have little to no knowledge of schools and PSHE.

A lot parents are being denied access to the materials which their children are being asked to engage with in schools. IIRC there is legal action brewing?

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 21/07/2022 11:48

jgw1 · 21/07/2022 11:45

Sorry, I assumed it was widely known that Boris Johnson condemned his endorsement by the BNP when he was running to be Mayor of London, but then refused to condemn a similar endorsement by Tommy Robinson during the 2019 General Election campaign. I guess not everyone follows the lies and distortions of our current Prime Minister as closely as I do.

Clearly not

and what is the point you are making here with specific reference to KB?

WarriorN · 21/07/2022 11:51

I am saying that the video does not in anyway portray the reality of what happens in PSHE lessons in schools.

Bs.

As a teacher I've seen enough bonkers pshe materials to know it does.

It wouldn't happen in my pshe lesson but it definitely is happening in many.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 21/07/2022 11:51

Paul Embery, a left wing trade unionist who's own union made a public statement distancing themselves from his anti-trans comments.

So? All the unions are completely ideologically captured to the point of endorsing openly misogynistic motions from the trans activist members.

WarriorN · 21/07/2022 11:52

Jgw1 is just flinging unevidenced bullshit about to fill up the thread.

jgw1 · 21/07/2022 11:54

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 21/07/2022 11:48

Clearly not

and what is the point you are making here with specific reference to KB?

A poster was asking for an example of the perfectly usual process in political campaigns of endorsements that had been rejected, so I provided one.

WarriorN · 21/07/2022 11:55

Clovefeld · 21/07/2022 11:29

Paul Embery, a left wing trade unionist who's own union made a public statement distancing themselves from his anti-trans comments.

Kevin Courtney, co director of the NEU, has recently stated that he supports Filia and has started to follow many 'GC' teaching accounts. Because safeguarding is paramount in teaching.

Floisme · 21/07/2022 11:57

jgw1 · 21/07/2022 10:05

Why would you think that I had said that Kemi was responsible for what others say about her, if you can find no evidence for me having said that?

Indeed why are you and other posters go on an on about something that I have never said?

Oh dear, I wonder why this seems to be proving so difficult?.
Anyway let me answer your question: It was because you had made an issue of the endorsement of Kemi by Reclaim.
To me this implied that you believe Kemi is responsible for what others say about her. It looks like quite a few other posters made the same assumption.

I am now reassured that you don't believe Kemi is responsible for what Reclaim say. So that's good.
However I am still confused: If Kemi isn't responsible for what Reclaim said then why did you make an issue of it?

Of course you don't have to answer but you've stated that you're happy to explain your views so it seems really odd that you seem to be struggling to explain this one.

jgw1 · 21/07/2022 11:57

WarriorN · 21/07/2022 11:52

Jgw1 is just flinging unevidenced bullshit about to fill up the thread.

What would you like evidence of @WarriorN ?

Crydamore · 21/07/2022 11:58

It's people like JGW1 that LF is warning us about.

jgw1 · 21/07/2022 11:59

Floisme · 21/07/2022 11:57

Oh dear, I wonder why this seems to be proving so difficult?.
Anyway let me answer your question: It was because you had made an issue of the endorsement of Kemi by Reclaim.
To me this implied that you believe Kemi is responsible for what others say about her. It looks like quite a few other posters made the same assumption.

I am now reassured that you don't believe Kemi is responsible for what Reclaim say. So that's good.
However I am still confused: If Kemi isn't responsible for what Reclaim said then why did you make an issue of it?

Of course you don't have to answer but you've stated that you're happy to explain your views so it seems really odd that you seem to be struggling to explain this one.

I was trying to establish whether or not Kemi was pleased with the endorsement. I think we have established she was indifferent about it.

LK1972 · 21/07/2022 12:00

@jgw1 so you reckon Reclaim are fascists, like BNP, is that why she should have unequivocally denounced their endorsement?

WarriorN · 21/07/2022 12:02

What would you like evidence of WarriorN

That the video doesn't represent U.K. pshe lessons please.

jgw1 · 21/07/2022 12:02

Crydamore · 21/07/2022 11:58

It's people like JGW1 that LF is warning us about.

Very kind of you to say so, thank you.

MarshaBradyo · 21/07/2022 12:05

WarriorN · 21/07/2022 11:52

Jgw1 is just flinging unevidenced bullshit about to fill up the thread.

I think so. It’s ludicrous

The same approach where pp couldn’t answer

This thread is nearly over, frustrating as they have tried to make it we can see how the left react to diversity in leadership, particularly a woman

Apollo442 · 21/07/2022 12:05

Clovefeld · 21/07/2022 11:29

Paul Embery, a left wing trade unionist who's own union made a public statement distancing themselves from his anti-trans comments.

Yes, much like JKR any concern for Women's rights gets you labelled as transphobic. It doesn't wash any more. I'd like to hear what he has to say.
www.spiked-online.com/2022/07/19/who-really-started-this-culture-war/

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 21/07/2022 12:06

jgw1 · 21/07/2022 11:54

A poster was asking for an example of the perfectly usual process in political campaigns of endorsements that had been rejected, so I provided one.

AND WHAT IS YOUR POINT WITH SPECIFIC REFERENCE TO KB ?

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 21/07/2022 12:07

you persuade no one because literally nobody can tell what your point is

Floisme · 21/07/2022 12:09

jgw1 · 21/07/2022 11:59

I was trying to establish whether or not Kemi was pleased with the endorsement. I think we have established she was indifferent about it.

Ok I think we might be edging a bit closer:

Firstly you do not think KB is responsible for Reclaim's endorsement. I'm pleased we've now established that.

Secondly, when you raised the issue of Reclaim's endorsement, you did not intend for that to imply any criticism of KB?

Correct?

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