Transwomen are really upset by HRT shortages

[Smileandactlikeitsfine]

It makes their moods all over the place.

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/amp/entry/hrt-crisis-impact-on-trans-community_uk_627bbc19e4b009a811cc19f3/

I mean us perimenopausal women take hrt for few other essential functions as well, but just as long as your moods are even mate.

You wouldn't deny someone with depression access to drugs that could potentially help them so why is this any different. Not to mention the effects of coming off HRT for Trans Women can be horrific

I agree.

In particular, we have women in this country who have had their ovaries surgically removed for medical reasons, and who need Oetrogen Replacement Therapy urgently.

I would find it odd if anyone diagreed with that.

I would further argue that women should then be prioritised who have a need for H REPLACEMENT T (all types) for treatment and preventative reasons.

@CupidStunt22 Yeah I don't like the phrase either, it sounds really dumb. I'm just using it distinguish the 2

Oh right, it's so much harder for tw.

Got it.

@CupidStunt22 It's isn't an offensive slur though so i'm a tad confused. I think you mean you just don't like the phrase which I guess makes sense

@slowpoke5001 if you don't like the term can you please report your post with it in and ask MNHQ to remove your post with it in? I actually find it extremely offensive.

twice as likely as who? evidence please

@Belovedfool I'm not saying that at all. I feel like i'm smashing my head against a brick wall at this point 😅

@Pennox www.suicideinfo.ca/resource/transgender-people-suicide/

Why don’t you call your ‘Trans friend’ she rather than ‘they’, Slowpoke? Because she is a woman according to you, and women take the sacred pronoun ‘she’ . People (women on the whole) have been threatened with jail for misgendering like that.

And I feel like I'm playing chess with a pigeon, so right back atcha, sister.

cis IS an offensive slur - please see the MN guidelines and please stop repeatedly using it to people who tell you that they find it offensive and triggering (myself included)

Another study which has a better comparison: www.transgendertrend.com/the-suicide-myth/

Rape according to UK law is unconsenting penetration with a penis. Which tomboys and transmen do not have, as they are female. Which transwomen who do not physically transition do have. As for the small percentage of transwomen who choose to undergo penectomy, with or without formation of a pseudo-vagina orifice, how am I supposed to know whether or not they retain the equipment necessary to commit rape? Should they undergo genital inspection before they enter women's sex-segregated spaces?

@Allthegoodnamesarechosen because SHE has the pronouns She/They.

The suicide stats are rubbish - please do some research.

the only reason a trans identifying person might be more likely to commit suicide than, say, me, is because they have mental health issues and depression to start with (hence the dysphoria) and are likely to have experienced homophobia and/or trauma in the past due to their sexuality.

What does that even mean?

I've got to the point where comments which use the slur cis just turn into white noise. The same with the gender ideology terms AFAB/AMAB etc. If I was speaking to a religious person who kept referring to me as a heretic for not sharing their belief system, I would have the same reaction.

It's also astoundingly hypocritical to insist that people respect preferred pronouns while using such a nonsense term.

If there is a shortage of HRT, it should be prioritised for those for whom it is a replacement therapy.* *I seem to remember a furore on Twitter because reconstructive surgery for women who had had breast cancer was being prioritised over the elective double masectomies euphemistically referred to as 'top surgery'. As it should be.

@JellySaurus Good point, sorry I should have stated as sexual assault not rape, I understand they are 2 different terms

Women works just fine so stop with the "cis". I am not a subset of my own sex class.

HRT is for biological women.

Trans women take cross sex oestrogen - it's not replacing anything

@Pennox Right, so do you have any proof of that at all without just pure speculation

*From what my trans friend has mentioned they don't think negatively of women at all, in-fact part of the reason they became trans is social, they get along better with most other women, able to talk about hobbies, interests that are typically more feminine. I remember her mentioning the worst thing she ever had to go through, even through all the abuse she has experienced was to have her own mother rejecting her and refusing to use the pronouns she identified with.

Ffffffffssssss. So glad you're weighing in on this purely on the basis of what your friend, one trans person, says.

You know it's perfectly legal and acceptable for men to like whatever hobbies they like, right? And that plenty of men get on better with women and vice versa? The fact that you call this transition 'social' shows what utter bollocks it all is. Liking crochet and dresses does not make somebody a woman. Jesus.

My friend is on her last hrt patch and has no idea if or when she'll be able to get more. Without this treatment, her quality of life was unbearable, and she was suicidal. She's now deeply afraid for herself and her family, and I know there are thousands of us, just like her.
The idea that life saving medication may be diverted away from her, to those with no medical need, frankly boils my piss.

It will evaporate, immediately, any smidgen of empathy I have left for those claiming what does not belong to them. It'll be gone, completely, and I would never ever look for it.

It's inhuman.

If you include sexual assault, penis-havers are still 90-something % more likely to commit it than females, and 90-something % of their victims are female. So my point still stands.